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Editorial: Don't blame homosexuality for Catholic church sex abuse
Boulder Daily Camera ^ | 9/2/18 | Quentin Young

Posted on 09/02/2018 10:22:01 AM PDT by madprof98

What led the church to where it is today was unspeakable crimes and institutional cover-ups. At a moment when unqualified humility would seem the only possible response available to leaders of the Catholic faith, they instead choose to engage in the scurrilous scapegoating of innocent gay people. They demonstrate an unwillingness to accept full responsibility and a breathtaking absence of decency. Abuse in the church occurred not because of homosexuality but because church leaders created safe spaces for predators. Some of the abusers might have been gay. So what? Psychologists say pedophiles are sexually aroused not by gender but by youth, and homosexuality does not make people more likely to abuse others, as studies have shown. Some of the victims in Pennsylvania were girls.

When priests tell church members that homosexuality is a bar to Heaven, that's ultimately a spiritual matter the faithful must work out for themselves, but when church officials charge that homosexuality causes outrages in communities here on Earth, the discussion becomes a concern for believers and non-believers alike. Whether for spiritual or humane principles, the reaction from within and without the church must be to categorically reject such hateful messages.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: catholic; homosexualagenda
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To: madprof98
Even if this were true, factors other than sexual orientation obviously could have produced such a figure. More clear-eyed church officials have identified one plausible true culprit: clericalism, the elevation of priests as spiritually superior beings and the accumulation of power to religious hierarchy.

Clericalism? That makes no sense at all. If that is the cause, then why don't the afflicted priests demand cash tributes from victims, or jewelry or other gifts or value, or free labor to clean the priests living quarters and prepare meals?

But the clericalism manifests itself as pressure to participate in sexual acts aimed at mostly teenaged boys. Clericalism sounds like a made up concept to divert attention from the most logical explanation.

61 posted on 09/02/2018 11:27:14 AM PDT by Will88
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To: madprof98

>>Psychologists say pedophiles are sexually aroused not by gender but by youth, and homosexuality does not make people more likely to abuse others, as studies have shown.

Of course....”studies”. Certainly peer-reviewed too, by peers who can not and will not ever say that there is anything abnormal about homosexuality.


62 posted on 09/02/2018 11:28:08 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice)
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To: madprof98

What the hell are you going to blame? They’re going after boys....not the parish nuns.


63 posted on 09/02/2018 11:31:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: reg45
Priests in the eastern church are allowed to marry and guess what, the eastern church (sometimes called orthodox) doesn’t have this problem.

I think you've got this backwards. Married men can be ordained to the priesthood, but single men, once ordained to the priesthood, cannot marry. There are some instances in the western Church where married men have been ordained, but they are typically men who were already married and had served as ministers in protestant churches.

64 posted on 09/02/2018 11:31:27 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: CIB-173RDABN
A conveyor belt of sexual scandals all in the name of ACCEPTANCE

Which began, ominously in the late 70s, as "Toleration..."

65 posted on 09/02/2018 11:32:08 AM PDT by publius911 (Rule by Fiat-Obama's a Phone and a Pen)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Are you certain of what you’re saying? Several Popes knowingly allowed this?

The "gay mafia" in the Vatican has been written about before Francis.

If the Italian newspapers were wise to this, why did the American press not pick up on it?

Oh, recently (this past summer) a party was reported worldwide.

Vatican police 'break up drug-fuelled gay orgy at home of secretary of one of Pope Francis's key advisers' Raid at flat belonging to the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith Occupant of flat was allegedly secretary to Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio Coccopalmerio heads Pontifical Council for Legislative texts and is a key adviser to the Pope

66 posted on 09/02/2018 11:34:36 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: trad_anglican

of course single priests can marry all the pope has to do is change the rule back to the original one


67 posted on 09/02/2018 11:36:18 AM PDT by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: publius911

tolerance, acceptance, celebration, glorification... same as the left’s roadmap for the isl-m terr-r groups like mb too.


68 posted on 09/02/2018 11:37:24 AM PDT by TianaHighrider (Speak the TRUTH and SHAME the devil! * Fight SPEECH/MIND control *)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Additionally, read this carefully...

"The flat belonged to the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, 
which is in charge of tackling clerical sexual abuse." 

Says it all.

The people in charge of tackling clerical sexual abuse were caught having a gay orgy.

69 posted on 09/02/2018 11:37:40 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Well, I’m definitely out of the loop when it comes to this.

Thanks.


70 posted on 09/02/2018 11:37:48 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: gibsonguy

Gay first. Pedophile second.


71 posted on 09/02/2018 11:38:37 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: madprof98

If it’s men on boys, it sure isn’t heterosexuality on parade.

Deal with it!


72 posted on 09/02/2018 11:43:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: laweeks
.....”Abuse in the church occurred not because of homosexuality but because church leaders created safe spaces for predators”......

Well that's only partially true......Since heterosexuals outnumber the homosexual population about 44 to 1, as a group the incidence of homosexuals molesting children is up to 40 times greater than heterosexuals.

73 posted on 09/02/2018 11:43:50 AM PDT by caww
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To: Travis McGee

How quickly the Church was invaded by Satan.


74 posted on 09/02/2018 11:47:04 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Much of the horrendous sexual abuse in the Grand Jury’s report is part of ‘a pattern’ of homosexual predation in the Catholic Church beginning in seminaries and culminating in the College of Cardinals.


75 posted on 09/02/2018 11:50:12 AM PDT by caww
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To: madprof98

Technically it’s known as ‘’pederast’’.


76 posted on 09/02/2018 11:51:54 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: 2nd Amendment

Right. Homosexuals are known for their celibacy and chaste lifestyles. LOL.


77 posted on 09/02/2018 11:53:47 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: 2nd Amendment

You stated..” Celibacy encourages homosexuals to apply for the priesthood”.....which isn’t correct.

Homosexuals are attracted to the catholic church because it’s been well known among homosexuals for decades they will be protected and the pickings are plentiful. Their community knows far more than what the laity often is in denial of.


78 posted on 09/02/2018 11:54:24 AM PDT by caww
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To: madprof98

98% of gay men have had sex with a minor. I would say 100%, but there may be one who did not. I have asked many homosexuals about this and not one has ever denied this was true. They excused it away as in, I was young for my age. It was consensual, or I wasn’t his first time. That doesn’t matter, that is how boys are brought into the GBTQ fold. Like being the first thing a baby calf smells after it is born, means it will follow you and identify you as belonging to the animal. A persons first sex experience, will bend their mind and their proclivity for life.

I suspect gay men go into the Priesthood to run away from that “bent”, and some go because of access.


79 posted on 09/02/2018 12:04:06 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: RoosterRedux

By definition they were. I totally agree, as does logic.


80 posted on 09/02/2018 12:06:09 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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