Posted on 09/08/2018 5:42:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
Don't you have a computer? If not than I apologize.
You've certainly got a point in one sense: No normal person wants to think about homosexuality at all. But the problem is that the homosexual impulse appears to be persistently predatory. It's never satisfied, because it's abnormal, something that only people who have other psychological problems--including suicidal tendencies--seem to do. Along those lines, homosexual men have astronomically high numbers of "partners," extremely high rates of drug and alcohol abuse, and extremely short lifespans. The statistics on suicide, substance abuse, and lifespan apply to lesbians as well. It's tragic, and seems to arise from serious family problems. These are our brothers and sisters in Christ, and we want good to come to them--but that isn't going to happen by going along with their irrational demands.
One further sense in which the homosexual impulse never seems to be satisfied is that it's got a "movement." That movement told us decades ago that it just wanted to be left alone to do its [awful] thing. But it wasn't done. It wanted its [almost invariably short-term] relationships to be equated under the law with marriage. And it wanted homosexuals to be permitted--and then preferred!--to be chosen to adopt children. And in recent years, the movement has further demanded that anyone who doesn't approve of homosexuality keep that fact a secret under threat of bankruptcy or, in many Western countries, imprisonment.
Over the long term, if you are "accepting" of anything that denies both the moral authority of God and the freedom of flawed human beings to choose to follow that authority, you will eventually be hunted down and enslaved. Why? Because like Communists, Nazis, and Moslems, homosexual activists are full of rebellious rage, and demand (like Lucifer) the power of God, looking to the state to give them that power over their fellow men. They are corrupt and crazy. Pray for them and do good to them. But don't follow them, don't accept their ways or offer "tolerance" of their form of insanity, and don't give them control over anything in human society.
But the problem is that the homosexual impulse appears to be persistently predatory. It’s never satisfied, because it’s abnormal,...
I’m sorry; I can’t accept your premise. I’ve seen too many predators of the heterosexual variety. It seems equally predatory, held back only by decent, strong morally led men.
My wifi is erratic at this point, thanks.
Appreciate what threads you post.
Eisenhower was 1954. Do you mean 1964?
Men gone astray are capable of being predatory about literally anything. The problem with using men and women mistreating each other as an argument for benign homosexuality is that whereas male-female attraction is essential to existence, homosexuality has no unique upside. It has most of the problems that come with male-female attraction and many more of its own.
In raw numbers, there are more heterosexual predators than homosexual ones in the US--a statistic some take as a reassuring argument for the harmlessness of (please excuse my specificity) sodomy. But consider that homosexuals are a tiny minority of any population. If you ask how many crimes of predation are committed per individual in each group, a given homosexual male is 5 to 10 times more likely than a heterosexual male to be a predator of the young.
Why would this be the case? One possibility is that the behavior is inherently compulsive. It's based on a desire for approval that damaged men and women are seeking in the wrong places and will never find there. Hence the wild rates of self-reported unhappiness, ill-health, disease, drug use, and suicide.
Normal marriage--note that I'm not talking about fornication, adultery or Harvey Weinstein games--is not only necessary for human existence, but something that works. It is unitive, fulfilling, and divinely ordained. Even measured in material terms, it is uniquely successful. Children raised by two parents (of opposite sex) married to each other are healthier physically and psychologically, are less likely to wind up in jail, have a higher household income, live longer, and are more likely to report that they are happy. Charles Murray's book, Coming Apart, has statistics and sources.
As history, drama, literature, and art remind us entertainingly, marriage can be clanky, noisy, histrionic, occasionally murderous, and is always imperfect. But it is one of the two prerequisites for human life. One is God to form us within our mothers, and the other is marriage to raise us. To ignore the first is illogical. To live without the second is at best a second-best solution.
Everyone knows this, including most of the homosexuals I know--who have their problems, but are not stupid or dishonorable. There is an irrational, vicious, despair-driven "movement" that claims them. But it does not speak for them.
Do you remember the old Bob Hope joke? "California just made sodomy legal, I'm getting out of here before they make it mandatory."
It used to be funny. Not anymore. Near the beginning of the millennium, it was "Just leave us alone and let us do our thing in private."
By 2008, California barely passed an amendment to prohibit enshrining Sodomite marriage as a constitutional right. Even then candidate Obama claimed he favored it because "marriage should be between a man and a woman."
After his reelection (where a handful of states had instituted it), he suddenly had a change of heart and expressed his frustration at the slow pace of the states to enact it.
Shortly thereafter, Justice Kennedy decided he wanted to be the deciding vote to take this sorry spectacle national. The Sodomites responded less by rushing to the marriage altar for their sham ceremonies, but by targeting and suing Christians businesses who wouldn't "celebrate" with them.
That's why the old Bob Hope joke isn't funny anymore. It is happening before our eyes . . . leaving me to understand why our forefathers took the seemingly extreme stance against the Sodomites . . . they didn't want them dragging down society at large to their sorry level.
Yes, predatory heterosexuality is disgusting but not even on the same playing field as its homosexual equivalent.
Men like certain basketball stars who claim to have boinked as many as 20,000 women over their lifetimes are the exception. Among homosexuals, the hundreds or even the thousands of partners are the rule.
Among married heterosexuals, roughly 80% of women and 70% of men are monogamous. Among "married" homosexuals (a relationship most of them still avoid except to make a political statement or jockey for a big legal pay day), the equivalent numbers are negligible. There is also a negligible number of decent, strong morally led men among the Sodomite inclined crowd. What few there are have decided celibacy is the preferable alternative to being a practicing Sodomite.
Anyone that actually has studied the Bible is not surprised. But, that is not the worst of it... Christ said it would be as was in the days of Noah... we are not there yet.
It was much better....they were quiet
Homosexuality despite being the preference of maybe 1-2% of the population is not normal and when it becomes as accepted and in fact venerated as it is today
It spells the death knell of civilization status quo and deterioration follows
There is no question of that
It’s fostered today by media and Hollywood and academia by the same progressives we see daily who control our culture
It’s direct result of the demise of traditional religious adherence in the West and it will be a major contributor to bringing us down
It’s funny an unintended consequence of particularly the Third Reich and their purity quests is that people are so terrified of being called bigot or Nazi that nobody without steel resolve dare challenge any aggrieved minority
That means everybody except white Christians ..
The future is grim to be honest
We don’t fight borders for the same reason ...fear of being labeled Nazi or bigot
The Nazis actions insured the demise of the white race in part in retribution to their own excess
I doubt that’s what they intended
It gave everyone wishing to destroy western values and traditions an impunity card
We are fostering a rise in homosexual men by helicoptering moms and meek dads
I see it all around me
Mom is authority and it damages masculinity and the inherent biology of objectifying women as sexual pleasure partners and life producing mates
We’ve raised our kids traditionally and you can see the stark difference
rise of homosexuality is more symptomatic than causative though as it continues to triumph it becomes causative to cultural rot
Nope, LBJ got that amendment to the tax code passed in 1954 right after he was elected as a senator. It was not a presidential action.
There were a number of religious leaders in Texas who opposed his candidacy as a senator and this was his payback to them.
But thanks for asking.
What is accepted,becomes the acceptible.
I don’t disagree with a lot of what you say about heterosexuality as the norm, and how good a marriage is for a family. My perspective is somewhat skewed by my marriages not working out. After being very dedicated. Obviously I played a part, but I am pretty honest that both times I was not the inflexible one: I made all the sacrifices, until I couldn’t any more.
You packed a lot into that post and I get it all. All excellent points. I agree that the veneration and glorification of non-norm sexuality is a symptom of something powerfully bad for civilization. It is begging for a society that “needs” an elite class to rule over a meek population afraid to speak up on anything, scared to be called a name and mocked. It is scary. Nothing is too abnormal not to be worshipped. 56 genders? 3 or 4 kinds of transgenders? And if you don’t get it right, drop to your knees for the lash.
Dennis Prager the other day was saying how illogical it is, that sexual orientation is FIXED IN STONE FROM BIRTH, we are told, but gender itself is COMPLTELY FLUID AND CHANGEABLE FROM MOMENT TO NEXT. Holy Shiite, they can’t have it both ways!
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