Posted on 09/14/2018 7:59:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Do you actually purchase insurance? Outside of an employer paying most of it?
I looked this past month. Cheapest--$1600-$1700 a month with around 8K deductibles, 80/20 coverage until about 11K or something like that. For healthy people, no pre-existing conditions or anything like that.
That's not having insurance. That's not even realistic.
There was no other way.
Bush League Republicans MUST become extinct before the Republic does.
I can afford to pay for a standard insurance plan but I refuse to do it on principle.
They don’t have the votes.
The American people hate Obamacare - but they love the Affordable Care Act.
Yes I buy my own.
It’s about half of what you’re saying.
But it’s mighty expensive. At least however, it is there if I need it.
That is what the GOP needs to pay very close attention to.
This is the one issue which could screw things up, big, for the entire party.
But I am very much for 100% healthcare for everyone.
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I can understand your situation. However desirable health care for everyone may be, with porous borders, rapidly rising healthcare costs, and an aging population the national financial burden of covering everyone is prohibitive, especially in a country that is laboring under a $21 trillion dollar debt (not counting our even greater unfunded liabilities).
I have a relative who pays exorbitant premiums under Obamacare in a state that has only one provider. Their out of pocket costs are also sky high. They have coverage but the cost of it has placed unanticipated constraints on their lifestyle.
Obamacare, like most government programs, was politically driven. Its financial viability and the economic health of the country were never seriously considered. And like all government programs, it has taken on a life of its own that will only grown increasingly expensive and subject both citizens and medical providers to ever more governmental control.
My GP sold his practice several years ago rather than put up with Obamacare.
Little Marco has shown himself to be little in more ways than one. He’s an attention seeker and an opportunist. That’s all there is to him.
Well, we knew they didn’t have any backbone.
No way I could do any of the other options. I have kids in college. I can't shell out $2K a month for sh*tty insurance that pays for nothing unless I am dying. Even then it probably puts me through a formula and only pays to up my morphine drip to expiration levels. It pisses me off just thinking about it.
I know several people in this position as well. Pretty much all of my friends say the rule in their house, now, is--no one goes to the doctor unless it's an emergency.
My one friend (yes, she has insurance) her husband went to the doctor last week. He had two RXs. One was for some high "octane" fish oil. $600 for the two co-pays.
She skipped it. She went home scoured the internet for a coupon for one and bought the standard fish oil at Costco.
They lied for eight years, made that lie the cornerstone of their campaigns for eight years. Then they were shown to be low life liars when Trump said he’d sign it. Of course they want the issue to be dropped. It’s not Obamacare anymore for me, now it’s McConnell-Ryan care.
Although Trump has been getting way more great things done than any other president, his first two years in office have arguably been for practice because he’s been forced to work with a corrupt, anti-Trump Congress left over from the lawless Obama Administration.
It’s up to us patriots to rescue Trump from Congress by electing as many new Trump-supporting patriot lawmakers to Congress as we can in the 2018 midterm elections.
Like teats on a boar, useless..
Hollow promises, massive spending, no accountability..
What leadership!! NOT!!!!
Like teats on a boar, useless..
Hollow promises, massive spending, no accountability..
What leadership!! NOT!!!!
They "give up" because they want to leave the remaining parts in place to continue to mess up American Medicine as much as possible and to either flesh it back out or use the stupidities of it to switch it out for Single Payer when they get a more compatible President or until this one "grows in office."
McCain
The penalty for not following the mandate has been set by President Trump to $0.
Leftards predicted calamity and catastrophe in the wake of vitiating the mandate. The largest health insurer in my state said they’d need a 91% increase if the mandate was obsoleted.
We have a small group policy for our little company. Small group rates mirror individual rates. Our premiums had doubled since DeathCare was put in place, and our deductibles more than doubled.
I wasn’t looking forward to the coming year’s renewal increase. But some lonely conservative voices said the opposite of what the leftards said: if you get rid of the mandate, the insurance companies will have to compete on price to keep healthy people in their plans.
So, what happened? Leftard predictions of disastrous price hikes this coming year? Or conservative predictions of price hikes moderated by a little competition for business?
Well, we got our rates a week and a half or two weeks ago: We had a premium DECLINE of 0.26%. From the same insurer who was shouting that they’d need a 91% increase.
There really is more work to be done to tear down DeathCare, but Mitch has been working overtime on getting judges confirmed.
With a little luck, we’ll pick up seats in the Senate, and with a lot of luck, we’ll keep the House, and we can go back and attack this toward the end of 2019.
And we’ll need to keep the pressure on.
The penalty for not following the mandate has been set by President Trump to $0.
Leftards predicted calamity and catastrophe in the wake of vitiating the mandate. The largest health insurer in my state said they’d need a 91% increase if the mandate was obsoleted.
We have a small group policy for our little company. Small group rates mirror individual rates. Our premiums had doubled since DeathCare was put in place, and our deductibles more than doubled.
I wasn’t looking forward to the coming year’s renewal increase. But some lonely conservative voices said the opposite of what the leftards said: if you get rid of the mandate, the insurance companies will have to compete on price to keep healthy people in their plans.
So, what happened? Leftard predictions of disastrous price hikes this coming year? Or conservative predictions of price hikes moderated by a little competition for business?
Well, we got our rates a week and a half or two weeks ago: We had a premium DECLINE of 0.26%. From the same insurer who was shouting that they’d need a 91% increase.
There really is more work to be done to tear down DeathCare, but Mitch has been working overtime on getting judges confirmed.
With a little luck, we’ll pick up seats in the Senate, and with a lot of luck, we’ll keep the House, and we can go back and attack this toward the end of 2019.
And we’ll need to keep the pressure on.
All talk, no rooster.
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