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Reports: Bill McRaven resigns from Pentagon board after op-ed criticizing Trump
The Statesman ^ | 9/14/2018 | Katie Hall

Posted on 09/14/2018 11:39:26 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

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To: Snickering Hound

That’s cool, I can get behind that. What’s baffling to me: I can’t square that up with the same guy who is now actually advocating abuse of a government position and misuse of classified information. Sometimes these guys have a brilliant career, are doing all the right things, and then something just happens to them. I don’t get it.

It’s like Chuck Hagel. In the early-80s to mid-90s, he was a co-founder, president, and CEO of a company that made him a multi-millionaire. Everything points to him having a lot on the ball, not just another idiot rich kid that was thrown a figurehead position in one of dad’s companies. He came a LONG way from the kid born in North Platte, Nebraska and worked at the local radio station. He wasn’t born into wealth and privilege like a little Al Gore, he wasn’t 5th generation Harvard like most people that attain high govt. office.

But then I see him at his confirmation hearing for SecDef looking disheveled and not sure where he’s even at. Before the hearing even started, I asked my wife, “Did this guy show up drunk?” And his stammering and hem-hawing through the questions didn’t help. Apperently congress would’ve confirmed Daffy Duck that day for that post. He never got any better. In every public appearance, he just looked and acted like he wasn’t all there. What kind of idiot gets publicly blamed for all the nation’s foreign policy problems, get publicly fired for it, then agrees to stay in the job for another 6 months until a replacement is found? I would’ve left skid marks getting out of there as soon as it left the boss’s pie-hole that I was fired. It’s baffling (at least to me).


101 posted on 09/14/2018 4:13:56 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity


102 posted on 09/14/2018 4:14:24 PM PDT by Chode ( We’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The University of Texas system obviously sucks


103 posted on 09/14/2018 4:24:57 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
That’s cool, I can get behind that. What’s baffling to me: I can’t square that up with the same guy who is now actually advocating abuse of a government position and misuse of classified information. Sometimes these guys have a brilliant career, are doing all the right things, and then something just happens to them. I don’t get it.

He went straight from college to an exemplary military career and then into academia. Has never been in the private sector.

Happened to George McGovern who tried to run a hotel after he left office and was shocked at the bureaucracy he had to deal with and went bankrupt.

104 posted on 09/14/2018 4:36:48 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: cdcdawg
Is anyone in Washington today as consistently correct as McCarthy was? He accused Soviet spies of being Soviet spies.

Nope - most of them are as tragically wrong as Rachel Carson ....

105 posted on 09/15/2018 3:27:16 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

LOL!!


106 posted on 09/15/2018 8:08:35 AM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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To: Doogle

“You’ve gotta be shitting Joker. You’re not a writer, you’re a killer!”


107 posted on 09/15/2018 8:16:19 AM PDT by shotgun
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To: indthkr

He probably used the George Costanza defense when his Pentagon boss asked him “What the F*** were you thinking?!?!” I can picture McRaven saying to him, “Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? Hey, if somebody had specifically told me that working for a defense contractor and publicly ripping on the very TOP govt. boss was a bad idea, I certainly would NOT have done that!”

Yeah, genius, it’s kinda like being on the corporate board of a large parts vendor for Ford and writing an editorial in a large nationwide newspaper ripping on the president of Ford Motor Company. That doesn’t do much for your career, chief. You’d think that a guy that had a very successful military career and a very political job at a large university would’ve picked up this little tidbit of knowledge along the way. In military terms, it’s like being a squadron CO and writing an editorial that slams the Chief of Naval Operations. MORON!!


108 posted on 09/15/2018 10:01:47 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Magnum44
Guess he's planning his next career move. Seems that pre-2020, people are hedging their bets. Trump makes it simple for some to cuddle up to the opposition. Not to disparage one who served our country, of course! He's entitled to be part of a blue wave sweeping the American experiment against the rock of history. And then we can be friends again with the Statists the world over who seem to despise American independence of thought and action.
109 posted on 09/15/2018 10:09:21 AM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine, education and forests!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
“Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation,” McRaven wrote. “If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken.”

What a drama queen idiot.

110 posted on 09/15/2018 10:10:29 AM PDT by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped)
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To: Snickering Hound

That may be...but he still is a pathetic loser.


111 posted on 09/15/2018 10:15:40 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Snickering Hound

For high ranking officers, the Bronze Star and Legion of Merit are attendance awards.


112 posted on 09/15/2018 5:23:26 PM PDT by damper99
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To: damper99

Yep. The Air Force gives out Bronze Stars to air traffic controllers routinely. Not to disparage the job but what the hell are they doing that is so heroic? I’m betting it’s a way to retain guys in a field that’s hard to keep people.


113 posted on 09/15/2018 11:38:02 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

One has to wonder why a journalism major, SEAL or not, would be chosen to sit on an “innovation board.”


114 posted on 01/04/2019 7:09:11 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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That’s how these guys roll. In a 30-year military career for Admirals/Generals, 15 of those years is spent prancing around Washington and Europe in do-nothing Admiral/General slots, wearing a pretty uniform, living in a house that’s more like a hotel with a full staff, and flying around the world in a Lear-type jet staying at the nicest hotel in town wherever they go. 90% of them are ROD (retired-on-duty, they just mill around smartly and do busy-work). Military Admirals and Generals are ridiculously overmanned, there’s more Admirals than ships and more Army Generals than rifle companies in Europe. The Air Force has more Generals than aircraft squadrons.

After 15 years getting paid 6 figures (it more like a million a year with all the perks, look at what it costs for one single flight in their personal Lear-jet), they slide into retirement and then get right back on the sugar-tit as a contractor, where they’re paid double what they made active duty. The system is set up that way, it’s a total crock. If McRaven is making this kind of screwup, it’s been a LONG time since he’s done any kind of meaningful work or answered to any kind of actual boss.


115 posted on 01/05/2019 11:02:58 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Snickering Hound

(I ran across this reply after somebody replied to me on this old thread.)

That right there explains a lot, it really does. I think a lot of people high up in government and military forget that they have an army of people under them performing all of their basic functions and all they have to do is show up everyday and tweak the steering of the dreadnought a bit. They get an attitude, “I’m running the entire Pacific Fleet myself, what’s wrong with these rubes that can’t do their taxes and financial disclosure forms?” More often than not, a big part of the staff’s job is to correct the boss’s screwups and get things back on track without even telling him, so he and his boss think he’s Mr. Perfect and actually he’s screwing it up all over the place.

My dad owned a restaurant until he was in his upper 30s, then cashed out for the sake of his sanity. Not literally, but he got sick of just about living there. When he got a job where he worked 48 hours/week and shouldered 1/1000th of the responsibility of the operation, he felt like every day was a vacation. At the restaurant, every day except Sunday he was there from 7 AM until 10 PM. When I’m channel surfing and I see a person on the Food Network saying wistfully with stars in their eyes, “My dream is to run a restaurant,” boy are they deluded. They think they know something because they’ve been a prep cook for 2 years, reality will hit them HARD. They think they’re going to be a celebrity-chef, the next Emeril, and make millions to have fun being a little Julia Childs. That’s the life of the 0.000001%. Most of them wind up like my dad, working 90+ hours/week just to keep their nose an inch above the water. In the end, you’d be doing just as well financially to work two jobs, Target and WalMart. That would be even better, you’re working the same hours but you’re not carrying the ultimate responsibility of he entire operation, you’re not getting the 3 AM phone call because some drunk ran into the building or you’ve gotta figure out what to do when your idiot prep cook chopped up an entire prime rib to make hamburgers (whoops, that really happened with my dad’s restaurant).

My long-winded point is: I’m not the slightest bit surprised that George McGovern tried to run his own operation and his plane fireballed in. He didn’t have his congressional staff there to do all the grunt-work, most people don’t know what they’ve got until it’s gone.


116 posted on 01/05/2019 11:47:11 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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