[ronniesgal]

i am not implying he did anything. I was telling the op that his views that women love ( or loved) to be held down against their will was bs. You think that’s ok??
as for MGTOW, let them go. Most of those guys just don’t like women. Not that they are homos- they don’t LIKE women. So let them go be off on their own. Most women i know ( my circle is small) won’t miss these types.

[grey_whiskers]

Fifty Shades of Lame shows that a LOT of women fantasize about this; I've read some of the pickup artists making fun of the MGTOW crowd, and then turning around and complaining about how depraved the sexual appetites are nowadays, of the mere-college-age-girls.

I think it's partly generational: things have gone downhill since I was a young dragon.