Posted on 10/09/2018 4:18:09 AM PDT by 11th_VA
I don’t know about the DNA but that would not be an acceptable solution to me. Many, many people have Native American DNA, that does not make them legally Native American.
In order to claim to be Native American in order to use any benefit, including preference for government contracts one has to be enrolled in a tribe. She needs to show she is enrolled as a member of the Cherokee tribe, that is easy enough to prove. She either is or isn’t; which at this point we all know she is not. So she has no business claiming she is Cherokee. Her new story is she has Cherokee ancestry, which is different than claiming to be a Cherokee.
Tons of people including me can claim Cherokee ancestry, I have an ancestor on the final Rolls, many just have family stories. Neither one is enough to be able to honestly use it for any gain, including educational, or political. To rightfully claim you are Cherokee you need to be enrolled as a tribal member.
If she has not lied on government documents she has likely done nothing wrong legally in spouting off about being a Cherokee. To me she has used it to further her political ambitions so morally that is very wrong. Goes straight to her honesty, means she is outright dishonest.
The problem is since when have the dims cared about morals or honesty when it comes to a dim candidate?
You can bet your bippy if she was a Republican she would have been slashed to pieces when she first used the claim to gain employment or better standing or whatever with the University. There would have been no political future for her, but if she had used it politically then she would have been destroyed for even a mention of NA ancestry if she could not prove it- even if she had not claimed outright to BE a Cherokee.
It is not for anyone else to prove she is or is not Cherokee, legally she is not since she is not a tribal member. She made the claim, she needs to prove it. She has not so far been able/willing to even show Cherokee ancestry, and has only claimed “family stories” to fall back on. That is your answer.
We can agree to disagree I guess.
She’s probably already done a DNA test, the result may be the reason for the silence on the subject.
To be considered to be a “Native Hawaiian” you need 50% Hawaiian blood.
I wonder what the Cherokees demand for proof.
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Collins stood pretty shakily on principle, but at least she was standing in the end.
Graham was great. (I never thought I'd write that.)
LOL! Funny thing is, my 2nd great grandfather actually left a wagon train and joined the Sioux tribe, so I can make that claim.
Note: The Omaha World-Herald newspaper is reporting that over 100 folks were lined up in Council Bluffs, Iowa waiting for the Trump Political rally this evening at 9:30 AM this morning. The number of folks waiting has changed from 100+ to hundreds at 11:00 AM now assembled. It should be a Blockbuster Trump rally!!!
ROTFL!!!
Yup,lived in Newton from the age of 1 to 25.Certainly a *very* nice place to grow up...but today when I drive by the Whole Foods at Four Corners I become ill seeing all the Volvo and BMW SUVs in the parking lot.I think you know what I mean,
A daughter is leaving ——(kids graduated and moved on)——disgusted with the new mayor.
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Cherokee tribe does not count blood or even lineage unless you can PROVE direct relation to someone on the Dawes Roll, also known as the final Roll. If you could somehow prove you were a Cherokee if you cannot prove/document that you are directly related to someone on that Roll and become enrolled in the tribe you are not considered a Cherokee, not legally in any way. Other tribes have their own determination but it is cut and dried with the Cherokee.
https://www.cherokee.org/Portals/0/Documents/2012/8/31660Application_Instructions.pdf
Thanks——VERY interesting.
For the Eastern Band of Cherokee it is the Baker Roll that is relied on. I seem to recall she claims the Oklahoma Cherokee as her heritage but this is for the Eastern Band.
I just had to google who the Mayor of Newton is and I happened to get a website that featured her photo.The first thing that came to mind was "boy,I'll bet she's fun at parties"....not that I'm any kind of male model myself! And knowing what Newton has become I'll bet she'll soon be sponsoring Hugo Chavez Month in Newton
That statement was funny...
That statement was funny...
“Except that the speech she gave was probably written for her and not be her staff, but by a conglomeration of the repub majority.”
Following the Dems are we? making an assumption without any valid reason or support and for what purpose. What are you trying to say? That Collins really isn’t smart?
If Gillum wins the election, I’d be moving out - Maybe back to Connecticut, if Bob Stefanowski wins...
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