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Smartwatch documented murder of missing journalist
Arutz Sheva ^ | 14/10/18

Posted on 10/14/2018 12:24:49 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

The Turkish newspaper Sabah has revealed that the journalist Jamal Khasshogi, who was murdered in Istanbul, had entered the Saudi consulate with an Apple iWatch smartwatch that documented his interrogation and murder.

According to the report, Khasshogi first approached the consul's room and was then dragged by two senior intelligence officers to a second room where he was interrogated and tortured until he was murdered.

On the recordings are shouts of Khasshogi and the security men. He was then dragged into a third room at the consulate, where his body was dismembered.

According to the report, the Saudis realized that he had recorded only at a later stage and managed to erase only some of the files. His phone remained with his fiancee, and she transferred the phone to the Turkish security forces, who reportedly managed to recover the files and listen to the recordings.

The Saudi crown prince continues to claim that his country is not involved in the disappearance of Khashoggi, who the prince claims entered the consulate building on Tuesday and left 20 minutes to an hour later.

US President Donald Trump made it clear in an interview with CBS' "60 Minutes" program that if Saudi Arabia was indeed responsible for the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi, it would be "severely punished." ....

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: amc; apple; erdogan; hamas; iran; ismellbs; jamalkhasshogi; kashoggi; ksa; kurdistan; murder; muslimbrotherhood; receptayyiperdogan; turkey
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To: anton

Whose business is it?


81 posted on 10/14/2018 2:39:41 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: bagster

Chopping someone up isn’t a good kill.


82 posted on 10/14/2018 2:40:56 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB

My late sensei never got caught. He died of natural causes.


83 posted on 10/14/2018 2:42:07 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: American in Israel

Perhaps it was recorded and saved in the cloud account.


84 posted on 10/14/2018 2:44:09 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: dynoman

It seems that series 3 carries its own data and does not need to be near the phone for access into its capabilities. Than the info could be retrieved off the phone thru backup extractor.


85 posted on 10/14/2018 3:05:46 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB
Perhaps it was recorded and saved in the cloud account.

Seems unlikely.

The watch supposedly has three ways to communicate:

  1. Bluetooth to the phone. But that's 30-50 feet max. So, too far away, if the girlfriend was waiting out on the street.
  2. Via WiFi, but not on just any network. Unlikely it had got on the consulate's network.
  3. Via LTE (cellular). But that requires support from a carrier, and supposedly there are none in Turkey.
It's much more likely the audio came from a Turkish bug, but the Turks don't want to admit to espionage (sources and methods, diplomatic fallout), so they invented the smart watch / smart phone / cloud story as a cover.

Here's one tech blog's assessment:

https://mashable.com/article/jamal-khashoggi-saudi-arabia-turkey-apple-watch/

86 posted on 10/14/2018 3:13:34 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Eleutheria5
It is cute the way people are rushing to the defense of a guy who cheered 9/11.

Personally I don't care if they killed him or if Turkey is lying through their teeth.

I would say it is about 40/60.

87 posted on 10/14/2018 3:19:40 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: Eleutheria5
And it is the US’ business.

Nope.

88 posted on 10/14/2018 3:23:11 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: GOPJ
Yes. WE CARE.

NO, WE DON't.

Not American.

Not our business.

89 posted on 10/14/2018 3:26:52 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

OK. Pleasure talking to you. Is so.


90 posted on 10/14/2018 3:27:36 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Eleutheria5
And to you.

This is something like the dems crying over the Hussain boys.

Neither of them make any sense.

91 posted on 10/14/2018 3:29:35 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Defense? I could care less for the journalist himself. But he was there as an employee of an American business, even if that business was the WaPo. American businesses’ employees have a right to go about their duties without being murdered. What we think of those businesses and the employees is irrelevant. If he were in South America and kidnapped by the Sandero Luminoso, it would be the same.


92 posted on 10/14/2018 3:32:07 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Must you be so focused on emotions? I’m not crying over him. Just a general principle involved here. See my last post.


93 posted on 10/14/2018 3:34:07 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

>>Khashoggi was anti-American, anti-Israel, anti-Jew, anti-Christian and anti-freedom. I don’t condone his killing but he played in a rough neighborhood and picked the wrong gang to join in the game of life.<<

If your characterization of this guy is accurate, I would strongly urge President Trump to do no more than make a strong statement condemning his murder and leave it at that. I don’t see where it’s in America’s interest to get embroiled in the matter at all. Guy took his chances in a dangerous environment and got clipped. End of story.


94 posted on 10/14/2018 3:55:51 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (DJT - Best POTUS since Gen. Washington)
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To: Eleutheria5
But he was there as an employee of an American business,

Big whoop.

American businesses’ employees have a right to go about their duties without being murdered.

So now we are going to extend the American blanket of protection to anyone who happens to be an employee of a registered in the US business?

Do you realize how many people that is? Are we going to go into China and investigate the murder of a factory worker because the factory is owned by Apple?

If he were in South America and kidnapped Joined up with the Sandero Luminoso, it would be the same.

Sorry. Did not cry any sad tears for Lori what's her name who joined up with a terror group in Peru and she at least was an American citizen.

I am sorry. You guys are riding a wave of hyped up emotion over someone who means nothing to you and has no demand on your loyalties.

And yes, you are emotional.

I find this kind of thing half sad and half amusing.

You are dancing around like puppets, full of concern over someone who would have danced happily on your grave after raping you to death.

95 posted on 10/14/2018 3:57:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: jmacusa

>>I agree. Swim with sharks and you get bit.<<

My thoughts exactly. Why get embroiled in a big political shootout over that dude’s mistakes. Stupid.


96 posted on 10/14/2018 3:58:20 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (DJT - Best POTUS since Gen. Washington)
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To: Eleutheria5
Must you be so focused on emotions?

All there is here is emotion.

No facts.

Sorry for being reality based.

97 posted on 10/14/2018 3:58:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: MagnoliaB

>>Is someone trying to get POTUS to start a war with SA to distract from all the cabal crimes they’ve been committing?<<

Our POTUS should remind the shouters for a harsh response that we are NOT going to be the world’s police force. Let Interpol investigate and make a report to the EU. Enough already!


98 posted on 10/14/2018 4:06:29 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (DJT - Best POTUS since Gen. Washington)
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To: HollyB

I don’t care. Why do you think it is our business?


99 posted on 10/14/2018 4:20:32 PM PDT by anton
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

He was at a foreign embassy while on the business of his American employer. That makes it the business of the US, which will have words with the country whose embassy he was in. If your hypothetical Apple employee were killed while visiting an embassy, or by a foreign spy, in order to steal industrial secrets from Apple, or prevent Apple from rolling out the newest I-Phone, then it was an assault on the interests of a US corporate citizen by a foreign country. Same thing.

If he was just killed in a barroom brawl, unconnected to his duties at Apple, then it is no longer America’s business.


100 posted on 10/14/2018 4:48:52 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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