Posted on 10/14/2018 3:37:29 PM PDT by blueyon
Bttt.
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Trump ordered the documents declassified on Sept. 17, but rescinded the order four days later.
In backtracking from the request, Trump said that the Justice Department and two foreign allies had asked him not to declassify the documents.
Hang'em high! LOCK 'EM UP!! LET'S GO!!!
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I am so sick of this crap. Trump needs to declassify, period. This is bowelshiite.
He will. Give another couple weeks. The timing is everything.
He will. Give it another couple weeks. Timing is everything.
“He will. Give it another couple weeks. Timing is everything.”
Is that before or after Huber rides in to save the day? And Sessions unrecuses after consulting with 2 supreme court justices and monkeys fly out of my butt?
I think it is actually that the UK and AU were caught helping HRC and the FBI in the attempted coup (FVEY). DJT is letting them swing in the breeze until he’s ready to drop the hammer.
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while this story is BS, this bit stood out for me:
13 Oct: UK Mirror: Vladimir Putin ‘ordered novichok assassin to murder British spy behind Trump sex dossier’
by Nigel Nelson
The dossier stressed the allegations in it were “unverified”.
According to court papers Steele filed in the US, the dossier was handed over “on a confidential basis in hard copy form” to British intelligence services because it “had implications for the national security of the US and the UK”.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vladimir-putin-ordered-novichok-assassin-13412653
is it public knowledge that British intel services were given the dossier?
The FBI didn’t “fail” to include evidence.
They DELIBERATELY didn’t include evidence to FISA.
The FBI and DOJ were controlled by Obama and DOJ head Lynch and the FBI by Comey. Trump was being targeted, which means that, exculpatory evidence would never be allowed to be presented to the FISA court.
Trump was going to be guilty, no matter what, and he was going to be removed from the presidency, no matter what. Fairness was never going to be an issue, since, the case was a completely manufactured one in order to undo the will of the people.
While Australia & Great Britain are our allies, they must be made to understand that they can not be permitted to attempt to subvert our political process.
Did you excerpt that? It was one of the most incoherent articles I’ve read. No offense to you personally. I guess I’ll read the link.
Trump said he got pressure from allies - presumably UK and Australia - to hold back. They are implicated in very bad ways in the whole thing and POTUS will use that leverage you can count on it.
Trump has no reason to declassify info that clears him right now. If he were under the gun maybe, but he is way winning. He can play that card later. There is no case against him, and to make the case the other side has to “declassify” (in other words, they have to prove their case and they can’t prove it with documents that are redacted). So he wins either way. Better to declassify later at this point.
I think Trump will declassify everything at some point. My read on this is that he wants Mueller to make the move first. Mueller should close his investigation soon. And when he closes it with nothing of substance to bring then Trump will be cleared by default. THEN he can declassify and we can go after the bastards who conspired to throw the US election.
Congress has been holding hearings for 2 years. They have tons of evidence and testimony. They are creating a record that will be used later. I think Congress has flipped Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, and we know James Baker from Perkins-Coie law firm has come clean. I also think Rod Rosenstein has flipped but I am not sure. But by the way they have been buddy-buddy lately it sure sends a message.
Trump has masterfully played the events of the last year plus, and the Democrats (and their media sycophants) have very likely destroyed their mid-term chances by the way they treated both Kavanaugh and Kanye. So Trump can hold back until after the 2018 elections, and after Mueller closes up shop, and then spend then next 2 years prosecuting the criminals in the DOJ/FBI and possibly inside the White House and Cabinet. Then he wins re-election in 2020, GOP rides his coattails to an even stronger hold on Congress and we really start to see the country turn around for the better. And by that I mean draining the swamp, rooting out corruption and inside dealing, bringing patriots into the key agencies and bureaus - the economy should do just fine long term if Trump keeps up the pace.
But Trump is under no obligation to prove his innocence and if he is innocent he has nothing to fear from Mueller. So holding these cards back for use later is the wise move IMO. Let Mueller shoot his wad, because once Mueller is done they have nothing to hold over him and he can clear the board without any resistance. Right now the pressure is on the conspirators and they are going to be rushing to cut deals to save their own skins if they haven’t already.
Yes you got it exactly right. This is bigger than Watergate and it leads right into the White House. And that Susan Rice, what an idiot! On Jan 20 she writes that back-dated email saying ‘Obama told us to do it all by the book’. Well guess what. She may have thought that email would help save Obama but all she did was lead the trail right into the Obama Oval Office. She proved that the conspiracy to rig the election leads right up to, and possibly including, Obama. They may not be able to prove it, but by that email I am sure he was in on the conspiracy.
Now the way things tends to work is, Presidents don’t go after other Presidents, so I doubt Obama is at any personal risk. But Susan Rice just implicated the entire Obama inner circle with 1 stupid decision to try and cover for her boss.
He knew from the start that the FBI was engaging in a seditious conspiracy and it very likely that Mueller was an active participant in the exonerate Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump as well as the espionage against the Trump Campaign from very early on in 2016.
It's almost certain that Mueller never in his wildest dreams expected the FBI players to be as irresponsible, stupid and just plain incompetent in the way they executed their conspiracy.
The coup plan was was actually a very sophisticated and complex scheme that would have worked well if not for Adm Rodger's actions to document the conspiracy and inform President Elect Trump as quickly as did - within days of the election.
If Rodgers had not spilled the beans, the FBI would have continued to plant agents in the Trump transition team and in the White house and they would have been able to manufacture enough evidence to get Trump regardless of Trumps actions.
It's a good bet that Mueller has been stunned and left reeling by incompetency and fecklessness of his FBI insiders.
How could a seasoned and careful fixer like Mueller anticipate the 10,000 + damaging texts between Strozk and Page?
Peter Strozk was the go to guy for counter intelligence at FBI as well as being the head of Comey’s clean up crew that covered up for Obama and the Clintons as well as being the head FBI Stasi agent in Obama’s weaponization of the FBI against his political opponents.
Strozk was an experienced and seasoned counter intelligence agent who was in the act of committing serious criminal acts for which he could be tried and convicted of sedition, treason and espionage and yet he ran his operation like a love sick teen with such sloppy security and intelligence trade craft that the whole conspiracy is unraveling and threads of the conspiracy are leading to Obama, Clinton, Biden, Comey and probably Mueller himself.
Had not thought of this fact:
“...If Rodgers had not spilled the beans, the FBI would have continued to plant agents in the Trump transition team and in the White house and they would have been able to manufacture enough evidence to get Trump regardless of Trumps actions...”
So planting agents on Trump’s staff to falsify evidence against Trump was one part of the insurance policy?
They were in the process of manufacturing evidence to prove their case right up until Comey got fired, and then they tried to hand the conspiracy off to an independant, unaccountable Mueller who could continue the project after the conspirators lost control of the FBI .
So the pattern holds true in the case of falsified 302’s on Lt. Gen. Flynn? I never understood what lie he told that made Trump fire him.
The policy seemed to be directed at Flynn, Trump, Sessions (recusal advice once this Russia thing got wings), who else?
I don’t understand Strozk’s reputation of being good at his job? Having read a good many of his text messages, he seems less than stellar to me. They all seemed to operate on half a cylinder but I know nothing about spying.
All good points.
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