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Air Force uncertain how long devastated Tyndall will be closed;
STARS AND STRIPES ^ | October 12, 2018 | COREY DICKSTEIN

Posted on 10/14/2018 11:59:51 PM PDT by robowombat

Air Force uncertain how long devastated Tyndall will be closed; F-22s possibly damaged in hurricane

By COREY DICKSTEIN | STARS AND STRIPES

WASHINGTON — How long Tyndall Air Force Base will remain closed is unknown after the coastal Florida installation sustained catastrophic damage from Hurricane Michael, which left nearly every building and some aircraft wrecked, service officials said Friday.

While the vast majority of Tyndall’s operational aircraft were evacuated from the base before the storm, some aircraft were left in base hangars for maintenance or safety reasons, said Erica Vega, a spokeswoman for the Air Force’s Air Combat Command. The extent of the damage to the planes was still unknown Friday, she said, but all of the hangars at the base suffered severe damage.

“We anticipate the aircraft parked inside may be damaged as well, but we won’t know the extent until our crews can safely enter those hangars and make an assessment,” Vega wrote in an email.

Embed code: In Panama City Residents begin to assess the damage left in the wake of Hurricane Michael. For those who evacuated, it means wondering if their homes remain standing.

Many of the planes left behind were F-22 Raptor stealth fighter jets, said a defense official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. But the official did not known how many planes were at Tyndall during the Category 4 storm. Some of the fighters, which cost more than $130 million each, were likely damaged in the storm.

Other aircraft left at Tyndall included QF-4 drones, former fighter jets that have been converted into unmanned aircraft to serve as targets for training missions.

Meanwhile, Air Force personnel who rode out the storm at Tyndall, which lies on the Gulf of Mexico just between Panama City and Mexico Beach, were still assessing the storm’s impact on the base. Among their primary concerns Friday was establishing reliable communications channels with officials outside the Florida Panhandle, an Air Force official at the Pentagon said Friday.

Much of the base was left in tatters, including the housing, Air Force Gen. Joseph Lengyel, the chief of the National Guard Bureau, told reporters in Washington on Friday.

“One hundred percent of the housing for that base is uninhabitable,” he said, adding Tyndall and the region around it would require assistance for at least weeks.

The cleanup effort began Friday, when a service Red Horse Squadron, an engineering unit, arrived at Tyndall from Hurlburt Field, some 80 miles west of Panama City. The squadron was outfitted with heavy construction equipment.

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Air Force special operators, also from Hurlburt Field, were able to open Tyndall’s airfield late Thursday to allow aircraft to deliver needed supplies to the area, an Air Force spokeswoman said Friday.

The Air Force said airmen and their families who evacuated before the storm should remain where they are for the foreseeable future and to retain contact with their chains of command.

“Our base took a beating,” Col. Brian S. Laidlaw, the commander of Tyndall’s 325th Fighter Wing, wrote in a letter to the base’s about 3,600 airmen. “By now you already know that Tyndall Air Force Base requires extensive cleanup and repairs. I will not recall you and your families until we can guarantee your safety. At this time I can’t tell you how long that will take, but I’m on it.”

Air Force officials preached patience for Tyndall evacuees, asking them to keep an eye on Tyndall and other Air Force social media for updates. Additionally, the Air Force’s Personnel Center has established a website where the latest information will be posted at www.afpc.af.mil/Hurricane.

Officials pledged the base would eventually return to normal.

“Today is better than yesterday and that is how it is going to continue to be,” Laidlaw said Friday in a statement. “We will continue to persevere.”

By Friday, Hurricane Michael, which tore rapidly across Georgia, North and South Carolina and Virginia on Thursday, was blamed for at least 11 deaths across the southeastern portion of the United States. Brock Long, the top administrator for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said he feared the number of fatalities would continue to climb as first responders reached areas devastated by the storm.

“Bottom line, it was one of the most power storms that the country’s seen since 1851,” he said Friday during a news conference. “And I think that the TV cameras are revealing what that looks like, particularly in the Mexico Beach area, but there’s a lot of damage inland.”

Some 3,655 National Guard personnel were supporting hurricane relief efforts in Florida and Georgia on Friday, Lengyel said.

“The bottom line is … the Florida National Guard will be in place as long as it needs to be,” the general said. “And that’s the beauty of the Guard.”

Outside Tyndall, most military bases hit by Michael across the Southeast began returning to normal operations by Friday. Tyndall’s neighbor to the west, Naval Support Activity Panama City reported damage on the base but appeared to be in better shape than the Air Force post, said Navy Cmdr. Jay Sego, who conducted an assessment of the Navy base just west of Panama City on Thursday.

“At first glance, we have many trees down and some structural building damage,” he said, adding officials had not determined when it would reopen.

Aircraft evacuated from Tyndall before the storm remained at several bases across the United States on Friday. It remained unclear how long they would stay at those locations in Ohio, Texas and Louisiana.

It also remained unclear how long F-22 pilot training, which is centered at Tyndall, would be suspended. Vega, the Air Combat Command spokeswoman, declined to speculate on the program, but she said the hurricane did not impact the Air Force’s immediate combat readiness.

“The Air Force remains capable of executing its combat mission across the world with aircraft from other bases, as well as those that were evacuated from Tyndall in advance of the hurricane,” she said.

Stars and Stripes reporter Caitlin M. Kenney contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: hurricanemichael; trumpdod; tyndallafb; usaf
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To: Jack Hammer
I’m no expert on the air force, but I do know those darned airplanes are VERY expensive - why the heck weren’t they flown out of there before the storm hit?

What makes you think that all flyable aircraft weren't flown out? Media reports? LOL

41 posted on 10/15/2018 9:18:37 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: sauropod
Except that Eglin is a major testing base.

Back in the '80s, my brother said some runways still had white lines painted across them.

Billy Mitchell's B-25 Tokyo bomber pilots had to be airborne before that white line, which represented the end of the USS Hornet's flight deck.

42 posted on 10/15/2018 10:45:24 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Not difficult at all—just a matter of making the decision and funding the effort.

When I was a crew dog (EC-130Es) back in the mid-90s, we were continuously deployed to Aviano AB, Italy. Aviano, like other USAFE bases, had enough hardened aircraft shelters for a full wing of fighters. In those days before F-16s moved there permanently, we usually had a couple of fighter squadrons deployed there, along with our aircraft and RAF E-3s.

Our platform was designated as Airborne Mission Commander for SAR during the nighttime hours, so crews scheduled to fly the next day pulled SAR alert from 1800L until we launched on our normal mission. We bunked in an aircraft shelter off the end of the runway, on cots inside metal building inside the Tab Vee. Every 90 minutes or so, another pair of Navy or USMC F/A-18s would taxi out and launch on their air patrols over Bosnia. Needless to say, we didn’t get much sleep on those alert nights, with jets running up their engines just prior to take-off. But in wartime, those shelters offered dispersal and protection, ensuring that some of your aircraft would survive.

Lack of shelters at virtually all CONUS bases is a reflection of attempts to save money and a mistaken belief that a Cat 5 hurricane won’t happen here. In the case of Tyndall, the Air Force took the gamble and lost.


43 posted on 10/15/2018 12:10:10 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Jack Hammer

Some are maintenance trainers—they don’t fly. Others are hangar queens, “lemons” of the fighter fleet that require much more maintenance to get off the ground, and aren’t flown as often. Others were undergoing phase level maintenance, meaning there wasn’t enough time to put them back together and fly them out. And, it’s even harder to get the “cann” (cannibalization) birds back in shape when 90% of your maintenance specialists are evacuating due to the storm.


44 posted on 10/15/2018 12:13:40 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: TonyM

I think it would make sense to relocate everything the
Eglin AFB and close Tyndall.

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If you have to rebuild everything then relocation
for sure should be a consideration.


45 posted on 10/15/2018 12:20:56 PM PDT by deport
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To: robowombat

If it’s anything like Homsestead AFB, forgetaboutit!


46 posted on 10/15/2018 12:23:17 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Jack Hammer

why the heck weren’t they flown out of there before the storm hit?

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The question is were they flyable? If not they couldn’t have
flown them out. Stages of repair, work, etc have an impact.


47 posted on 10/15/2018 12:29:13 PM PDT by deport
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To: ExNewsExSpook
This also happened in the Viet Nam War. Robert Strange McNamara thought based on what was known of enemy capabilities the chances for aircraft loses from rocket or mortars was minimal. Tet 68 came along and at Da Nang and TSN and Bien Hoa scores of USAF aircraft were damaged and a good many destroyed on the ground by enemy rocket bombardment. The Norks had modified the launch mechanism for the Katuyuska (a pretty simple system anyway) to allow the rockets to be fired from individual launch racks. The NVA/VC sited scores of these in the bush around large bases and fired hundreds of rockets during the 68 offensive. We got very good at using tracking radar to locate the launch sites so as soon as a rocket started its parabola a good fix could be gotten on where it was fired from and in less than five minutes some times from launch US artillery rounds were descending on target. The Viets offset this somewhat by developing timed release devices so they could set their rockets up, wind up the launch set and be well gone when the rocket fired.
48 posted on 10/15/2018 2:25:00 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: commish
Eglin is a about 10 miles inland and that makes all the difference. Tyndall was like Patrick, with the flightline running right along the beach.

Keesler is pretty close to the Mississippi beach and has suffered storm damage several times. Heck, it's one of the Hurricane Hunters' bases.

USAF will maintain the same level of presence along the coast regardless of base locations. It's a practical necessity in order to train at Mach 1+.

49 posted on 10/15/2018 3:34:55 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Mr.Unique

Was thinking they were flyable. My bad...


50 posted on 10/15/2018 11:45:14 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: ExNewsExSpook

Oh yeah. I did time over in Germany, and sometimes had to run from Baumholder down to Bitburg or Ramstein for various reasons and I remember the shelters.


51 posted on 10/16/2018 10:39:29 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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