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John Kelly, John Bolton trade expletives in immigration argument outside Oval Office
Washington Examiner ^ | October 18, 2018 03:41 PM | Updated Oct 18, 2018, 05:04 PM | Diana Stancy Correll

Posted on 10/18/2018 2:37:01 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: Zhang Fei

“if Khashoggi had anything other than a lingering death, the Saudi government went too easy on him.”

Concur. I’m glad the radical rat bastard is dead. I don’t get why Lindsey and friends are clutching their pearls over this.

To me, this seems a bit like a trap for PDJT. Can’t explain why/how, but it seems suspicious. People are waiting for him to do the PC-incorrect thing and then they’ll jump on him.


21 posted on 10/18/2018 3:20:37 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Do not discount anything in which Donald Trump is involved." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Rusty0604

“I had read that she was soft on immigration before she was even nominated.”

IIRC, when her name first came up, most FReepers were critical. Trump canm do better.


22 posted on 10/18/2018 3:22:54 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Do not discount anything in which Donald Trump is involved." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Zhang Fei

The whole thing is made up, just like the other stories about discord in the White House. People should be calling BS on this kind of stuff.


23 posted on 10/18/2018 3:32:19 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Zhang Fei

Good...I am glad that there are opposing views on potential policy within the Whitehouse. The President is the ultimate authority, but he needs to hear arguments from whatever side he can hear. His advisors, etc, due him service by advocating opposing policy views, rather than being “yes men”

What I do expect though, is that once a Presidential decision is made, all parties march forth to carry out that decisio, whether they advocated for it or not. That, and do it with a smile.


24 posted on 10/18/2018 3:33:12 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: Zhang Fei
Bolton's side on the matter.

So does this American.

25 posted on 10/18/2018 4:01:04 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: mewzilla

I don’t think lack of money is the problem. But it is still Congress’ problem as they need to create a law that immediately sends them back to their country of origin if they enter this country illegally. No more staying here and fighting in the legal system.


26 posted on 10/18/2018 4:03:38 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: MayflowerMadam

“I don’t get why Lindsey and friends are clutching their pearls over this.”

It has to do with the Lockheed/Martin air defense system that Saudi Arabia was supposed to purchase. Saudis are dragging their feet, the deadline for signing off on it has passed, and instead MBS has been having some talks with the Russians about looking into purchasing the Russian S-400 system.

Lockheed/Martin is one of Lindsey’s biggest campaign contributors. When Lindsey says MBS must go, it’s a way of leveraging pressure on the Saudis to go with Lockheed/Martin.


27 posted on 10/18/2018 4:07:15 PM PDT by Hartmann
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To: Hartmann

Ohhhh. “Follow the money”, huh? I should’ve known.


28 posted on 10/18/2018 4:10:19 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Do not discount anything in which Donald Trump is involved." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Zhang Fei

The kelly-bolton showdown is good for trump

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-john-kelly-versus-john-bolton-showdown-is-good-for-trump


29 posted on 10/18/2018 4:20:17 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: Cold War Veteran - Submarines

And “Sources said the dispute began...”. It HAS to be true. They’ve got sources.


30 posted on 10/18/2018 4:34:08 PM PDT by lonevoice (diagonally parked in a parallel universe)
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To: Zhang Fei

Healthy (aka combative) opinions among those providing information for decisions is good thing.

Other’s may argue otherwise, but varying opinions are the foundation of good decisions. I say, bring in more arguments.


31 posted on 10/18/2018 4:48:00 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Opportunities multiply as they are seized.)
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To: Retvet

bttt — it won’t hurt Republicans politically (Trump supporter will continue to be attacked physically however).


32 posted on 10/18/2018 4:55:47 PM PDT by Stepan12 (It is Civll War right now..)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“Bolton is right. Nielsen’s middle name is “I love DACA’. She really needs to exit. It was a mistake to put her in that position in the first place.”

You’re right.


33 posted on 10/18/2018 5:57:19 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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To: Zhang Fei

And we should believe it because the Washington Examiner said it happened?


34 posted on 10/18/2018 6:13:52 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Pin drop time! Big-name lib swampers go into hiding!)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

>>President Trump has a lot of house cleaning to do, and time’s a wastin’.<<

Trump himself is to a large extent responsible for the house being in need of a good cleaning.


35 posted on 10/18/2018 7:55:23 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: Zhang Fei

>> A realist would have no problem applauding Khashoggi’s demise, given his Muslim Brotherhood terrorist background. Whereas idealists like Rubio and Graham seem to be up in arms about his death. My personal view is that if Khashoggi had anything other than a lingering death, the Saudi government went too easy on him.<<

Yes, it is precisely because I am a realist that I agree wholeheartedly with your post. There is no rational reason why President Trump should permit the death of this jihadist to adversely influence our foreign policy in the Middle East.


36 posted on 10/18/2018 8:04:28 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: Rusty0604

>>Patton never got that memo.<<

LMAO! That was a good one.


37 posted on 10/18/2018 8:06:59 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat
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To: fortes fortuna juvat; Rusty0604

Patton once said that an officer should be able to give a 15 minute profanity laden dressing down without repeating a single profanity.


38 posted on 10/18/2018 8:15:36 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Zhang Fei
The border should be closed. Anything else is close to national suicide. We can't just sit and watch our country being invaded. We already are rewarding illegal aliens who are basically invaders.

This has been posed here before: No country can survive if it fails to protect its borders.

39 posted on 10/18/2018 8:21:33 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Boomer
Excellent summation, very simple, really, and it still seems to go right over the heads of most posters on this thread (with a couple exceptions.) Maybe I should repeat the key phrase:

our laws have serious loopholes

What do FReepers want - have Homeland Security brazenly break the law? Can the amount of "mileage" the Dems would get out of that even be estimated?

Trump needs to find a core group of Congress critters who would submit corrections as a bill and very publicly and loudly (with Trumps' support at every opportunity) push HARD on it. (McCarthy's new bill is a start, but only that. I do hear it being supported by radio ads.)

40 posted on 10/19/2018 1:15:20 AM PDT by Paul R.
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