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The Secret History Of The Saudi Consulate Affair: Turkey's Counter-Attack
Forbes ^ | October 18, 2018 | Melik Kaylan

Posted on 10/19/2018 2:56:05 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler

Almost everything we know about what actually happened in the Saudi Consulate comes from the Turks. Make that everything we know. And make that what we think we know. One thing is certain at this point. The US-based Saudi journalist Jamal Kashoggi is dead. The rest, down to how long it took for the Saudi executioners to kill him – seven minutes – we have from Turkish sources. Now ask yourself – why are the Turks so determined to be so informative? The regime in Ankara is hardly a champion of human rights for journalists. Hardly a paragon of selfless transparency in its own conduct toward dissidents.

It's endlessly astonishing how the global news media can generate such a mountain of noise over a particular topic without once asking the most obvious, the most germane questions. What are the Turks up to? What's the game here? They've managed to endure years of foreign nationals being executed on Turkish soil – from Chechen resistance fighters to Syrian opposition activists – without going soft and raising a rucus. Suddenly they care about a Saudi activist disappearing inside what is effectively Saudi territory under international law. Of course they should be outraged. But for them to develop a sensitive heart suddenly over this one outrage suggests other calculations afoot.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: erdogan; forbes; jamalkashoggi; jamalkhashoggi; kurdistan; muslimbrotherhood; putinsbuttboys; receptayyiperdogan; saudi; secret; turkey; whataretheirfrnicks
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Turkey is playing us.
1 posted on 10/19/2018 2:56:06 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Jeff Chandler

Could the release of Pastor Brunson play into this equation?


2 posted on 10/19/2018 3:00:32 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: sanjuanbob

He is mentioned in the article.


3 posted on 10/19/2018 3:03:12 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Excellent article.

But it does not talk about how bad the Turkish economy is, how desperate Erdogan is and the probable involvement of Iran.


4 posted on 10/19/2018 3:07:32 PM PDT by detective
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To: Jeff Chandler

There are 1.5 million Armenians who would urge caution when trusting the Turks - unfortunately they are unavailable for comment.


5 posted on 10/19/2018 3:07:40 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: Jeff Chandler
Tinker, Tailor, Journalist, Spy: Jamal Khashoggi And The Story Not Being Told
Posted on | 10 comments

Via NC Scout at American Partisan.

The Middle East is a cesspit.

And very few Westerners understand it, or the reasons for its seemingly irrational importance in world affairs.


6 posted on 10/19/2018 3:14:30 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
One thing is certain at this point. The US-based Saudi journalist Jamal Kashoggi is dead.

Really?

I would say that unless they have come up with Osama's pal's body in the past 12 hours we do not know that.

And yes, anyone who believes anything the Turks say should be sprayed for aphids and placed on a sunny windowsill.

7 posted on 10/19/2018 3:16:38 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

That’s a very interesting article that makes a good point in the last section, y’all read it all.

It’s generally an unmentionable amoung the real status quo.

Thanks for the post.


8 posted on 10/19/2018 3:27:42 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: Weirdad

(among)


9 posted on 10/19/2018 3:28:28 PM PDT by Weirdad (Orthodox Americanism: It's what's good for the world! (Not communofascism!))
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To: Jeff Chandler

That just means they’re being selective in which atrocities they reveal so that they only expose those which are politically advantageous for them to do so, not that they didn’t happen. Its kind of like the Nazis exposing the Soviet slaughter of Polish officers, their motivations for doing so are irrelevent if what they expose is the truth.


10 posted on 10/19/2018 3:29:16 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Jeff Chandler

Imo, too much coordination with our msm NPCs for it to be just Turkey.

Same as that mass invasion force coming up to our southern border.

This is the left. Deep state is organizing these events.


11 posted on 10/19/2018 3:36:39 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Qui Bono - Who benefits?

No one is asking that question (well, except the subject article, of course).

The current Turkish government hates our guts, hates the Saudis, hates the Israelis. They have a soft spot in their black little hearts for Iran. Oh, and what a coincidence, we, the Saudis and the Israelis are allied against Iran, plus trying to hem in the Turks. So why is it that we would believe them, even if they said that the sky was blue?

OF COURSE they are trying to rip apart the US-Saudi special relationship. Not that I’m really all that keen on the Saudis (I’m Jewish, and not particularly welcome on their soil), but they are and have been a key ally since the 1980s at least (when they ramped oil production from 2.5 million BPD to about 12 million BPD in about 6 months to help collapse oil prices and with them, the Soviet economy). We need the Saudis as allies, even if not as close friends.


12 posted on 10/19/2018 3:56:12 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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"And yes, anyone who believes anything the Turks say should be sprayed for aphids and placed on a sunny windowsill.

;)

13 posted on 10/19/2018 4:02:03 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Thanks for posting this.

It's nice to know I'm not alone thinking this whole thing doesn't smell right.

Lot of extra info I was unaware of.

Erdogan's put down of the so called military coup d'état was frightening. Killing civilians along the way.


14 posted on 10/19/2018 4:07:39 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: Jeff Chandler

Turkish truth-telling - ask the Armenians about that. ahem.


15 posted on 10/19/2018 4:30:02 PM PDT by avital2
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To: outofsalt
My husband was reading over my shoulder and said, "do you think anyone will get that?"

I said "Psh, it's FR."

16 posted on 10/19/2018 6:29:31 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

That was perfect! I quoted you here, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3698194/posts?page=43#43


17 posted on 10/19/2018 6:33:11 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Not only did I quote you, I plan to steal it and use it in my offline life! He should be proud of us! Well, you...


18 posted on 10/19/2018 6:36:49 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Texas Fossil

You would probably find this article interesting.


19 posted on 10/19/2018 6:44:25 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Jeff Chandler

Perhaps it is a Saudi faction looking to overthrow the current rulers.


20 posted on 10/19/2018 6:46:18 PM PDT by Raycpa
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