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Online Free Speech Is Dead – GAB Faces Imminent Shutdown
Liberty Nation ^ | 28 October 2018 | Mark Angelides

Posted on 10/28/2018 8:59:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Conservet
“I’ve been on GAB for several months. There is a lot of anti-Semitism, racist
posts and some unwanted pornography, but I respect the commitment to respect free speech and limit censorship. I hope Andrew Torba overcomes this and gets back to business.”

In my opinion, apart from the pornography - which is a separate and different issue, the anti-whatever traffic needs to be tolerated, as this is the only way for discussions to occur and for people's views to be challenged.

Under the USSR, hatred and tribalism was suppressed by the thumb of totalitarianism - but it was never dealt with in a way that would substantively address the issues people had with one another. Once the USSR was no more, these groups began fighting each other, as the simmering hatred had just percolated all that time they were suppressed and unaddressed.

Threats should never be tolerated, but differences of opinion have to be allowed in a society with free speech.

21 posted on 10/28/2018 9:37:51 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What kind of money are we talking talking about, to start up an new ISP to host their own site on? Can start up money be raised by offering stock in Gab or is that not the way to go? Would control be lost to the big tech conglomerates through stock offerings? Surely there has to be a way to break the death choke hold big tech has on this area of the internet and our rights to free speech. Congress isn't going to fix this problem as big tech already owns Congress and the sheeple are way too stupid to see it IMHO.

I sure hope a way can be found to resolve this major roadblock. I may be wrong but this sure seems like a clear cut violation of our rights under the 1st Amendment and are being violated and under the Voting rights act as well by not allowing our right to free political discourse of our own choosing. End of rant and royally pissed off.

22 posted on 10/28/2018 9:39:13 AM PDT by Ron H.
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Same way the hosting sites do it. Get your own connection going to your own building with your own servers.

Freedom of speech has always had the platform limitation. If you don’t own the platform you are subject to their rules.


23 posted on 10/28/2018 9:40:08 AM PDT by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: discostu
Same way the hosting sites do it. Get your own connection going to your own building with your own servers.

You didn't answer the question. You just repeated what you said before in different words; "Get your own connection."

So how does one "get their own connection?"

24 posted on 10/28/2018 9:41:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

GAB turned into an anti Jewish hate rant, I walked away from it. Free speech is great until it turns into pure hate speech and pushes violence. Maybe the first p amendment has no bounds but common decency does and I don’t need crap like I was seeing there on my computer.


25 posted on 10/28/2018 9:42:34 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s private companies - Paypal, Joyent - doing what private companies are free to do, end their commercial ties with a customer when it no longer makes business sense to continue it.


26 posted on 10/28/2018 9:42:42 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: discostu

As soon as you’re hosted you’re subject to their rules. ..and its just a matter of time before they come for you lol


27 posted on 10/28/2018 9:42:59 AM PDT by TonytheTiger7777
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To: DoodleDawg

Those “private companies” have budgets larger than 90% of the governments on Earth. They are not “private companies,” they are the equivalent of nation-states, and should be treated as such.


28 posted on 10/28/2018 9:43:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I DID answer the question. but since you apparently can’t do a search:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r4227977-30-Dollars-for-your-Own-t1-line
https://www.whoishostingthis.com/blog/2015/03/09/start-your-own-isp/


29 posted on 10/28/2018 9:44:32 AM PDT by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We all need to keep checking back in on Gab.com continuously or daily until it can find a workable solution to this major problem. Until then it is going to leave a big void in our lives.


30 posted on 10/28/2018 9:45:58 AM PDT by Ron H.
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To: TonytheTiger7777

That’s how it’s always been. If you don’t own the wall the posters can come down. If you don’t own the newspapers your missives may not be published. If you don’t own the stage you can be pulled off.

Nothing about this has changed for the entire history of mankind.


31 posted on 10/28/2018 9:46:04 AM PDT by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: Drew68
If a contract was violated, Gab has a beef. If not, then the answer is more competition, not more regulation. That said, some Congressional hearings on this subject to shine a light on who us doing what to whom and why would be an excellent idea. As would Congress doing what it can to make sure it sets no roadblocks in place that might stifle competition.
32 posted on 10/28/2018 9:47:30 AM PDT by mewzilla (Is Central America emptying its prisons?)
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To: discostu
We are right back to the same problem at step 2:

Whether using a Wi-Fi or fiber network, you will need to address the following:

1) Is it feasible in your area?
2) Find out if there is sufficient demand and if there are companies who will sell bandwidth.

As soon as the pressure is on those companies will stop selling bandwidth to you and there is nothing you can do to stop them.

33 posted on 10/28/2018 9:49:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Freetalk24 overseen by OAN is rolling out.


34 posted on 10/28/2018 9:53:38 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Unless you’re in the hinterlands there’s always options. And because of the competition they aren’t that subject to pressure. GAB’s problem is they are fully hosted. They own none of their connection. And now they’re shut off. Learn the lesson of the porn sites. Own yourself.


35 posted on 10/28/2018 9:54:58 AM PDT by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And this is the real issue... You would have to also own your own telecommunications corporation and infrastructure to guarantee a connection and completely unrestricted access.


36 posted on 10/28/2018 10:01:09 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

And you don’t think that fascistbook along with the rest of the tech nazis put pressure on them to force GAB out?


37 posted on 10/28/2018 10:04:02 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats... BETRAYING America since 1828.)
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To: discostu

That’s only somewhat true. To decide to not allow calls under its service to connect with GOP headquarters or regulate the content of your text messages.
Lee’s holsters that claim to have the legal ability to regulate service need to be forced to register as political action committees for the DNC


38 posted on 10/28/2018 10:08:33 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

Oh of course... They are all in cahoots. And that is the problem... There are absolutely no Conservative or neutral mega-corporations to compete against all this liberal monopoly power.


39 posted on 10/28/2018 10:11:04 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: DesertRhino

Actually in the modern world where phone service is often NOT from a company considered a utility and beholden to a lot of rules that’s not so true anymore. Remember a few years ago when Verizon opted to dump the most expensive (support calls) 10% of their customers for simply not being worth the trouble. At will relationships are at will.


40 posted on 10/28/2018 10:12:00 AM PDT by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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