INSIGHT FROM MY HONDURAN HALF OF THE FAMILY ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION (Vanity)

My Family | 29 Oct 2018 | Salvavida

[PGR88]

I am American, but have lived abroad quite a long time. My experience is a corollary to yours.

Even in the poorest countries I have been to - normal people do not want to leave their homes, to break the law in the United States. Normal people worry about their parents, children, brothers and sisters and don’t abandon their families. Normal people in even the poorest countries do the best to live a normal life at home. Normal people even in the poorest countries do not want to be stateless or live in the shadows of another country. In sum - NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT BECOME ILLEGAL MIGRANTS. ONLY ABNORMAL PEOPLE AND CRIMINALS DO.

[NoLibZone]

“They certainly do not think like Americans nor anything in which we value.”

That’s a perfect fit for the Rat-Mob Party.

[Kartographer]

"It produces a people that wants stuff. And they want it now."

If we don't stand up and protect our stuff it soon won't be ours.

[mrsmith]

Thanks. Very interesting.

“We wantan El Jefe like the American El Jefe.”
They don’t realize we are better because we have no El Jefe but the Constitution.

[pigsmith]

Thanks.

Answers several questions, and confirms several suspicions...

[caww]

.....”there are 16 million illegals here already, they have their own communities”.....

That unfortunately IS the Globalist agenda.....not that they have to assimilate but 'we' have to accept these communities (illegals and otherwise) , their cultures and lifestyles living 'alongside' of ours...which is 'Integration' of 3rd world countries into western nations whether they like it or not. That I do not agree with.

[Salvavida]

Why don’t they want to stay in Mexico where they share a language?

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Not discussed because this is through their eyes, not from our eyes. Language and culture isn't the issue. There are between 11-16 million illegals here in the US, everyone knows someone here, which means they don't have to fully integrate in the first generation (my opinion). Mexico doesn't have opportunity like here and it's not even close. This is NEVER a consideration. EVER.

[caww]

We already have that happening......looters etc and

[caww]

.....”Their system doesn’t produce responsible, moral citizens. It produces a people that wants stuff. And they want it now”.....

So once here how long before they want more they see their neighbors have they do not have the capability nor desire to work for and earn?

[UpInArms]

How about deploying 8000 US Marines offshore from Honduras and issuing the statement, “If Hondurans illegally enter our country the US will regard it as an act of war. We will act accordingly.” Then again I guess we would own the place. Never mind.

[Salvavida]

Mexico does not have the Uncle Sugar gravy train.

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Ding, ding, ding, ding!! We have a thread WINNER!

Contrary to some responses, it's economics and trajectory in life. We have what people want, and they happen to be CLOSER. It's not that they HATE AMERICANS, they really don't. Their pain pushes them over the threshold of respecting us, and don't underestimate greed and contentment mixed in.

[JennysCool]

It sounds like your wife’s relatives are much like liberals here. They are fairly successful in their country and support the “poor huddled masses” just to virtue signal and feel good about their “caring” selves.

[Salvavida]

So once here how long before they want more they see their neighbors have they do not have the capability nor desire to work for and earn?

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From their perspective, no one said anything about not working. Generally, they are very industrious and do jobs that Americans don't want to do. Will they do the least if it is afforded to them? Of course. Human nature and sin does that.

[Salvavida]

NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT BECOME ILLEGAL MIGRANTS. ONLY ABNORMAL PEOPLE AND CRIMINALS DO.

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I would challenge you on that. Their situation is so bad, and to a large extent, we have left the door of opportunity open. Remember when I said there are no consequences? That is real. These are very normal people responding to the path of least resistance and casting lots with Uncle Sugar.

[Salvavida]

What could these people have accomplished and could have accomplished had they gathered like this in mass before their government demanding what they instead are demanding of the US???

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That question is from an American point of view. These are not Americans. Think Old World. They have never witnessed at any point in their lives, a government that executes justice.

[Salvavida]

From my experience, they would find everything they want from the US simply by going to Costa Rica. I wonder why the caravan did not decide to do this? Actually I know, because they would be met with force.

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Way off base. Going to CR or any other place is NEVER a conversation point. They can't drop a baby there and instantly become an American Citizen. This is about changing the trajectory of their life....permanently.

[Salvavida]

Thanks...no understanding of asylum in first country either. America or bust?

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Great point! I missed covering this because their conversations NEVER talk about asylum. They do know by the experience of others that there are no consequences.....so they go. Having a legit asylum claim is never a consideration. Asylum is a foreign concept, but if a lawyer tells them to parrot a talking point in order to get in.....well...you know the rest.

[PGR88]

No doubt you know many “normal” Hondurans - your wife’s family, her educated friends, people with families, etc...

They may all admit that Honduras is a screwed up country and may be quite pessimistic about the future - BUT, would any of them seriously consider just dropping everything to join a caravan across Mexico? Would they stuff themselves in shipping containers or pay gangsters to get smuggled to LA? I don’t know Hondurans, but I know many similar people in other countries. They would never consider doing such things to get into the USA.

[Army Air Corps]

It comes down to two words: Free Stuff. Costa Rica does not have the Free Stuff Cornucopia that the US has thanks to the American Tax Drone. Work harder, more dependents are on the way.

[donna]

Actually, they all sound like they graduated from Harvard!

They believe the same things.