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To: Pelham

There was no strict dividing line between north & south during the first civil war there were border states like Kentucky, Maryland & Missouri with divided loyalties even in solid confederate states there were areas loyal to the union Knoxville & the “kingdom of Jones” in Alabama. West Virginia actually became a state by succeeding from Virginia during the civil. In NYC during the civil war the Democratic Party machine Tammany hall organized the draft riots after Gettysburg to create a diversion to save the army of northern Virginia. If you look at the electoral map of the country in the 2016 election the country is definitely divided along geographical lines. With pro communist sentiment concentrated in the coastal areas. I don’t hesitate to called the Democratic Party the American communist party which it clearly is. The war probably will not have organized armies but will be fought asymmetrically & will probably have more foreign intervention the Chicom’s seemed poised to side with pro communist side. Russia might take advantage to take Alaska.


94 posted on 11/08/2018 10:46:48 PM PST by cctrout
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To: cctrout

Alaska’s pretty big and is bristling with people with guns. The Russians might even leave the strip where Juneau is alone, since it also borders Canada to its South as well as East and might be to big to commit occupying troops to. Russia proper only has 160 million people and its integral territory is huge and they know China is eyeing Siberia. Alaska will probably be left alone.


135 posted on 11/09/2018 1:21:52 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: cctrout

“In NYC during the civil war the Democratic Party machine Tammany hall organized the draft riots after Gettysburg to create a diversion to save the army of northern Virginia.”

Well that’s a new one I’ve never heard before.

The draft, the ‘Enrollment Act’, had been passed in March 1863, only four months before Gettysburg.

It was immensely unpopular with the white working people of NYC who were going to be directly affected. Blacks were excluded from the draft and the wealthy could purchase a substitute for $300.

The first draft numbers were drawn on July 11th, the second on July 13th, and with that 2nd drawing the riot erupted. The rioters were interested in saving their own hides, not the Army of Northern Virginia.

Lee didn’t need Tammany’s help. Meade was slow in pursuit, the Union Army was battered and exhausted from the battle just like Lee’s.

“Meade was hampered during the retreat and pursuit not only by his alleged timidity and his willingness to defer to the cautious judgment of his subordinate commanders, but because his army was exhausted. The advance to Gettysburg was swift and tiring, followed by the largest battle of the war. The pursuit of Lee was physically demanding, through inclement weather and over difficult roads much longer than his opponent’s.”


199 posted on 11/09/2018 1:16:47 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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