PETER HITCHENS: Soldiers? No, Brtiain lost 700,000 poets, teachers, inventors...and fathers

DailyMail.com ^ | 11/10/2018 | Peter Hitchens

[Jane Long]

Yes.

[Jane Long]

And, they’re replacing them with....

[FreedomNotSafety]

The US Civil War with up 650,000 to 850,000 (based on more recent historical findings) deaths and population of 31,000,000 was a far more calamitous event. The reorder of our constitutional republic and the enormous increase in federal power was a tremendous disaster to liberty.

[Jeff Chandler]

The reorder of our constitutional republic and the enormous increase in federal power was a tremendous disaster to liberty.

Yes it was.

[familyop]

"Give me the Kaiser and the Tsar, any day....."

No thanks. I like the system in the U.S.A. and what remains of the culture. And as for those men, they were indeed soldiers.

[MuttTheHoople]

All this hooey to commemorate the beginning of a 21 year armistice to a war that only ended December 31, 1991, when the Soviet Union ceased to exist.

[familyop]

This includes insightful information about World War 1 (covers Prussia, World War 1 and World War 2). The history of the Huns should be learned in light of the history of the Prussians and Nazis, too.

HERE IS GERMANY 1945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYaRCV0a26s

[If You Want It Fixed - Fix It]

WW1 was a drop in the bucket of self-murder....abortion. Began with 1931 contraception made possible by WW1 error.

[familyop]

This one has a clearer picture.

Here is Germany May 8 1945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la6J7yRnEus

[The_Media_never_lie]

I do believe that WWI was the beginning of the end of civilization. A true historic turning point. I don't think Europe has recovered, or will ever recover. On every level --- political, social, physical, emotional, cultural, spiritual --- it was smashed. WWII came roaring on its heels like an opportunistic disease taking down an already wretched, weakened sufferer.

Even the post -WWII recovery was blighted with signs of moral and spiritual death.

And that is still with us, with a vengeance.

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Yep. Exactly.

[familyop]

"WW1 was a drop in the bucket of self-murder....abortion. Began with 1931 contraception made possible by WW1 error."

Early Women’s Rights Activists Wanted Much More than Suffrage
History.com
BY REBECCA EDWARDS
MAR 2, 2018

Charles Knowlton’s Fruits of Philosophy, the first American birth-control manual, went through dozens of editions after its publication in 1832. Among married couples in the Northeast and parts of the Midwest, abortion became so widely practiced that doctors estimated one in three pregnancies was ending in abortion, obtained through both surgeries and mail-order abortifacient drugs. Lecturers gave talks on family limitation; as April Haynes shows in her book Riotous Flesh, women in Northeastern towns and cities formed “physiological societies” to share information about sexuality, pregnancy and childbirth (though their curriculum included stern warnings about the dangers of masturbation). Many women viewed this as part of their broader campaign for women’s rights.

Two events in the 1870s sharply curtailed such open conversations. First, suffrage activists like Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton made a temporary but ill-fated alliance with glamorous “free love” advocate Victoria Woodhull during her moment of national celebrity in the 1870s. Stanton, in particular, was smitten by Woodhull’s bold libertarian attack on marriage. “Governments,” Woodhull declared, “might just as well assume to determine how people shall exercise their right to think…as to assume to determine that they shall not love, or how they may love, or that they shall love.” She topped this with a ringing declaration of her own sexual freedom: “Yes, I am a Free Lover. I have an inalienable, constitutional and natural right to love whom I may… ; to change that love every day if I please, and…neither you nor any law you can frame have any right to interfere.”

[nutmeg]

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[TChad]

bflr

[lonevoice]

Very interesting article and superb comments to this point, worth reading them all. This reminds me of what originally drew me to FR so many years ago: informed, well-written opinions without stupid memes, inappropriate jokes, foul language and rampant illiteracy. As a history enthusiast, you might find this of interest as well.

[WMarshal]

Great article, it sums up the tragedy of the Firet World War.

[WMarshal]

"The reorder of our constitutional republic and the enormous increase in federal power was a tremendous disaster to liberty."

WW I gave us the freedom stealing income tax and WW II gifted Americans with world-wide taxation and true slavery, Americans pay US income tax no matter where you live. The feral government thinks that they own us.

[silverleaf]

Good article

[silverleaf]

What rough beast slouches toward Bethlehem, waiting to be born?

[Hardastarboard]

I read an article recently which estimated that because of all the deaths France suffered, there were 300,000 fewer possible soldiers born to defend them against Germany. Of course, as stated elsewhere in this thread, if there hadn’t been a WW I, there wouldn’t have been a WW II, so in a sense it’s a moot point.

[Hardastarboard]

I would also highly recommend a book called “1913”, about the state of the world in all of its major capitals just before the war. The Great War was an unimaginable catastrophe that should never have happened, and destroyed what should have been major advances in peace, prosperity and freedom around the world.