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Before everyone starts barking 'FAKE NEWS' it's time to take an honest assessment of what happened during the midterms.

Did Democrats make gains in suburbs and rural communities?

If so why?

There are many questions to be asked.

What messages did they get that determined how they voted?

What 'narratives' did they believe that caused them to vote as they did?

1 posted on 11/14/2018 8:35:26 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

The way I see it, most Republican candidates just flat out suck. They really need to up their game in that area.


2 posted on 11/14/2018 8:36:25 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Trump is not as popular in the suburbs as he is on FR.com


3 posted on 11/14/2018 8:38:53 AM PST by nwrep
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To: yesthatjallen

A majority of the candidate that got washed out sucked or were never trumpers.

Candidates who embraced Trump did better, way better

We have republicans who were publicly against the wall, and they lost. People want the wall, so those people in those races had no reason to vote.

I said, the silver lining to the mid terms house races, we flushed a lot of turds out of our party. 2020 we can run better candidates who will support President Trump

President Trump will be fine, he can still issue executive orders, he can still get conservative judges in, and other appointments.

If the house dems are just going to open 1000’s of investigations over nonsense, the moderates are going to be sick of that nonsense and will be willing to jump ship in 2020.

I say we let the dems shoot themselves in the foot here.


4 posted on 11/14/2018 8:42:29 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: yesthatjallen
In my state (New Jersey), almost all of the Republican incumbents were destroyed by Democrats who didn't campaign on a damn thing. All they did was point out that the Republicans controlled the White House and both Houses of Congress for two years -- and have almost nothing to show for it.

This illustrates one of the oldest rules of politics: It's always much easier to campaign when you're out of power.

5 posted on 11/14/2018 8:42:35 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: yesthatjallen

A number of these areas where Dems won from Repubs were, IIRC, due to the retiring Repubs who did not like Trump to begin with. Likely not the only thing involved, but still something to be considered.


7 posted on 11/14/2018 8:44:01 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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They are using non-citizen votes.
There is nothing stopping them.


11 posted on 11/14/2018 8:47:11 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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it was a massive mistake to let as many republican representatives retire (26) in a midterm cycle.


12 posted on 11/14/2018 8:47:18 AM PST by JohnBrowdie
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I suspect a big part of it is millenials, indoctrinated into socialism from elementary school through college, are now having children and moving to the suburbs.

The Republican brand needs to be dug out of the closet beneath all of the liberal appeasement packages and broadly marketed across many platforms. The media, entertainment and academic communities are all full-on socialists and promoting its “advantages” 24/7.

That is what we need to counteract to get younger Americans and immigrants to understand that self-government has never happened anywhere before or anywhere else. If it is destroyed here, the last stand fails and tyranny will prevail worldwide.

Per the CIA World Book, there are a lot of countries listed with a “Republican” form of government, but most of them are outright socialist countries trying to balance between mob rule and tyranny. That is why their citizens are trying to break into our country to achieve prosperity.

They don’t know what self-government and individual sovereignty are. They want the prosperity it generates, but have no clue that is the cause of success. That is the message that we need to get out. These younger folks and immigrants do not know. They must be taught or they will replace our republic with their banana republics, which our youth also revere.


13 posted on 11/14/2018 8:50:26 AM PST by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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30 posted on 11/14/2018 9:15:53 AM PST by foreverfree
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The bottom line for me is this: continuing to reshape the economy to benefit the middle class. Putting all else aside, strong families trend Republican, and strong families are based on strong economies. Help make sure hard work pays off and we’ll be OK in the long run.


33 posted on 11/14/2018 9:20:09 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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“Deep dissatisfaction with President Trump and an apparent realignment . . .”

When “all” the “press” reports 24/7 every negative spin, meme, and lie they can about Trump and Republicans, it’s no wonder that the folks bombarded with only that information voted the way they did.

We need to fix the libel/slander laws that protect their false reporting about “public figures” and start suing the britches off them personally and corporately. I think that is the only thing that will touch them. Perhaps a RICO suit or two of “journolist” participants as well. This is a 100% coordinated propaganda effort -— so we have to address it and fight it as propaganda, and not protected 1st Amendment free speech.


35 posted on 11/14/2018 9:28:11 AM PST by LTC.Ret
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To: yesthatjallen

Did Democrats make gains in suburbs and rural communities?

If so why?


simple- what did the GOPe do to inspire people to vote and GOTV??

Answer? Nothing...

Kavanaugh injected some motivation into people but the GOPe did nothing- as usual...

remember- the only reason we kicked ass in the midterms of 2010/2014 was the Tea Party uprising- it had NOTHING to do with the GOP/GOPe...

we need either another Tea Party uprising or another pro-Trump grass roots movement to hit the streets. We also need the mccain-less/flake-less/corker-less GOP to start acting like conservatives and to be honest i am encouraged by what i see from Lindsey Graham...

that’s it in a nutshell..


37 posted on 11/14/2018 9:30:11 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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Democrats don’t allow elections only fixes.


39 posted on 11/14/2018 9:32:48 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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One big reason, at least in CA- the SALT limitations.

yeah yeah, we all know the reasoning behind it- make the high tax states pay their share rather than foist it off on everyone by deductions, and the concomitant pressure on statehouses when massive state taxes can’t be completely deducted. Plus a big F.U. to blue states like Ca an NY.... yadda yadda yadda, but it *HURT* people in the red districts of those states; no matter how good the reason, part of this is blowback from people who used to vote republican and just got hit with 15-20 grand thanks to the tax plan.,


42 posted on 11/14/2018 9:40:21 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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This isn’t fake news at all. The suburban voter never liked Trump but they did like where the GOP was on the issues. In 2016 they might not have liked Trump but they were sick of Obama and wanted his policies reversed. The suburbs held their noses and voted for Trump. After all, the GOP was with them. . .

That is, until the GOP wasn’t. They punted on the issues and the Paul Ryan lead House (I would say purposefully) did NOTHING. Once that happened, the suburban voter left with Trump as a reason to vote for it. To his rural, forgotten person base, that was more than enough reason. But to the suburban coalition voters, that wasn’t going to cut it.

The suburbanites are the rich, well to do cocktail set. They regard Trump as a vulgarian and simply cannot stomach the idea of a Twitter Guy. I know, I live amongst them. Yet, the democrats were able to get their votes not by selling “hate Trump” as many believe, but by harping on, of all things, healthcare. It drove me mad to see advert after advert of the dems harping on pre-existing conditions and the GOP making a mess of healthcare. These ads went totally and completely unanswered. Not one GOP advert saying, “wtf!?!? You democrats and you alone gave us this HC system and now you are trying to pin it on the GOP.”

And therein lies the problem. The suburban voter all too easily falls for the bi-annual democrat “moderate” masquerade party. We can’t win congress without the suburban voters. And we can’t win the Presidency without the coalition of the suburban voters and the forgotten man rural voters.

I would say that Trump should pick up the phone and place a call to Mr. Preibus and get his butt back to the RNC. Ms. McDaniel is over her head. Way the eff over her head.

As for the SALT deduction, this was an issue and a totally unnecessary self-inflicted wound. The GOPe bought into the narrative that they needed to “pay” for the tax cut. This was how they did it. It might have been delicious revenge on the blue states but the GOP forgot that there were VERY RED places in those states that are now, blue. That SALT deduction limitation is hitting who? Yup, the suburbanites who the GOP used to own. Again, showing that the GOP lost the issues.

The fixes are easy. We all know the democrats are not sincere as to where they stand on the issues. One thing that can be done is that the GOP and Trump should immediately push to eliminate the SALT deduction limitations. I can’t tell you how many dems in NJ campaigned heavily on elimination this. But does anyone here really believe that the Democrats will ever support anything that is a tax break?

This all boils down to this. In many races the Democrats masqueraded as moderates. They need to be put on the record asap as being what they are. I don’t know if it will be enough to re-take the House, but I suspect it will go a long way toward making their majority very small.

I worry, however, that the red footholds on the coastal states may be gone forever, especially with the entrenched voter fraud scheme (’found votes’) we are seeing play out across the country.


49 posted on 11/14/2018 11:20:26 AM PST by FlipWilson
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50 posted on 11/14/2018 11:20:27 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("The word 'racist' is used to describe 'every Republican that's winning'" --Donald Trump)
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To: yesthatjallen

Am I disappointed with the election? Yes, because why did we lose? If people were sick of Trump, why did he get people to see him this year? The GOP house leadership is part of the problem, so I’m not sure if we can get the districts we lost to flip back.

P>If we can get some people who’ll help Trump, and fight the Socialists (fka Dems) we might get the house back. The minority leadership can’t be another Paul Ryan or any NeverTrumper...


59 posted on 11/14/2018 1:49:08 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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