The Deep State hates the new prince. Just saying.
Khashoggi was an Islamist. I don’t think anyone SHOULD be murdered but it’s something that happens all of the time over there for political reasons and the world might just be a better place with one less WaPo columnist calling for the subjugation of women and Sharia Law.
That to me is something I would not believe.
Spreading Sunni Islamic terrorism is what believing Muslims should be doing. -Tom
Within living memory we have had presidents who have murdered their personnel rivals. Who are we to judge the Saudis ?
I don’t care one whit about Jamal Khashoggi.
Who cares that Muzzie scribbly fatty got bumped off, half a world away..?
I care about OUR people.
And I care about our money and our influence.
I find his statement pretty disheartening. Isn’t it basically, “we get a lot of money from the Saudis so, we are okay with whatever they say or do. Those starving Yemenis, Iran, Syria, blah,blah, blah whataboutism.”
I really don’t think America First means the USA dances to whatever tune that Saudi Arabia or Israel plays.
Think about the ramifications of a power vacuum in Saudi Arabia and what/who would fil it
Think of the collapse of a counter power containing Iran
Think about the collapse of a major player in global finance
Think about the collapse of the center of world energy markets
Think about the collapse of a power that has been quietly pragmatic about the role of Israel vs the Palestinians
Every power that is malign to the USA would welcome all of the above
This is very cagey. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. They are having me but if he’s treating them like a friend that’s fine because they are useful and he keeps them in check and uses them. That’s fine by me. He also uses them against worse enemies.
I stand with President Trump and I don’t give a damn what the corrupt CIA or corrupt FBI has to say about this or ANYTHING else.
Jamal Khashoggi, was just another reporter and like most, will not be missed by me.
POTUS standing tall once against rampaging America hating fascist Democrats and fellow travelling Never Trump “conservatives” who wish to harm his Middle East agenda. He is our Horatius at the Bridge without a doubt.
Good. No one should care about the Moslem Brotherhood dirt bag. And how can the other side object to Trump’s opposition to Syria in that statement?
The statement is full of falsehoods.
1. Saudi Arabia, not Iran, invaded Yemen. Tens of thousands of children there have starved to death and millions now face death.
2. Assad has not killed millions of his own citizens in Syria. Not even the terrorists fighting the Syrian govt claim this. The total dead in 7 years of war is around 500,000, most of them being Syrian army and Jihadist terrorists. Who fed Trump this obvious BS which makes him look bad?
3. The Saudis have funded Wahhabi Islamist terrorists around the world, including Syria, where they have killed or exiled many Syrian Christians. The US funded Al Qaeda-related groups $700,000,000 in Syria. This was documented and published by the Pentagon last week.
4. There is no significant Iranian military presence in in Yemen. The statement that “Saudi Arabia would gladly withdraw from Yemen if the Iranians would agree to leave” is basically Saudi fake talking points.
5. “They would immediately provide desperately needed humanitarian assistance” ignores that the Saudi invasion has created the humanitarian catastrophe there.
6. “Saudi Arabia has agreed to spend billions of dollars in leading the fight against Radical Islamic Terrorism.” That’s what they say. They do the opposite, as is well-documented.
This is extremely disappointing. Written by John Bolton, the supporter of the MEK Islamo-Marxist cult that no one in Iran supports?
Rand Paul has this right.
The Saudi are our allies against Iran and Muslim terrorism.
Trump has to consider the lives of Americans.
I also read in multiple places that Kashoghi(sp?) had connection to the Muslim Brotherhood — he may have been a terrorist and by killing him, the Saudis may have saved many American lives.
Trump has to look at the whole picture.
Let me start with why it is a black and white issue ...America first. President Trump is the president of the United States of America, and thus he needs to make the best suite of decisions for the country. Period! It does not get more black and white than that, and that should be the ruling decision. Based on this, I support President Trump's decision 100%.
On why it is not a black and white issue - that's because there are nuances to the matter. I will divide it into the bad and the good.
The bad: Saudi Arabia is not a friend to the US. It is the world's largest supporter of terrorism (while people say that's Iran, actually Iran is number 2 after Saudi Arabia). Iran directly supports Hezbollah (the Shi'ite terror organization) and a couple of Shi'ite groups supported by the Quds force. Saudi Arabia (i) funds a radical branch of Sunni Islam called Wahhabism/Salafism, (ii) funds Madrassas (Islamic schools) teaching that brand of faith across the world from Pakistan to Indonesia, and (iii) that Salafist branch of Sunni Islam is the bedrock of every single Sunni terror group ...and there are a LOT of those. Ranging from Islamic State, Al Qaeda, Al Shaabab, Taliban, Boko Haram, Jamia Islamiya, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Abu Sayyaf, Moro Guerrilas ...you name it, and if it is not Hezbollah it is almost definitely a Sunni group subscribing to Wahhabism.
The good: Saudi Arabia is an ally to the US. An ally does not have to be a friend - just aligned with our objectives. Additionally, it is better to have the Saudis for us than against us. Most importantly, as messed up as Saudi Arabia might be, Crown Prince Mohamed bin Salman is actually trying to fix some of that stuff. He is not a polished gem, but he is most likely the best type of person that could be leading that country in decades!
I believe President Trump is trying to make the best out of a bad situation, or at least not to make it worse. Sober decision-making is required here, and if I was the president I would be doing more or less the same exact thing President Trump is doing. Not because he thinks Saudi Arabia is a 'nice place,' but because he has real geo-political responsibilities and he is cognizant this requires proper thought and strategy. Acting rashly - like some Dems and Repubs want - would only drive a wedge between us and Saudi Arabia, weaken the position of MBS (who, again, is the best of a bad batch), drive deals worth billions into the hands of China and Russia, and weaken America's interests in the region. Playing the game right however may actually result in Saudi Arabia making much needed improvements - or at the very least doing those important to the US.
And friend of Bin Ladan