Posted on 11/29/2018 4:07:00 AM PST by tlozo
Yeah, I’m reading, doesn’t sound like it is a violation one bit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits
Putin’s popularity is in the toilet, the country is going to be Islamic in the near future. It’s pretty clear why they did this.
The Daily Signal has very good reporting. Their war correspondent Nolan Peterson is a former special operations pilot and knows his stuff.
https://www.dailysignal.com/author/nolan-peterson/
Ukraine to ask Turkey to close Bosphorus for Russian naval ships
The request is based on the Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits, which demands Bosphorus for the ships of the belligerent countries
14:26, 29 November 2018
First of all, it is dishonest to call the Russian action “unprovoked”. It most certainly was provoked, and most likely intentionally on the part of the Ukrainians, who specifically violated a treaty by belligerently sailing warships into Russian territorial waters without following protocol.
Second, the Georgian war, as far as Russia is concerned (South Ossetia was rebelling first) was also “begun” by Georgia, in that Georgia commenced hostilities by shelling a Russian peacekeeper position in South Ossetia.
Third, South Ossetia and Abkhazia were never “annexed” by Russia. They remain (mostly unrecognized) independent nations with their own government and administration.
Fourth, Crimea joined Russia by exercising its own right of self determination. Other then a handful of Tatar who are politically involved with Ukraine, you won’t be able to find anyone in Crimea complaining about this so called “annexation”.
So you admit Russia will still be around in 2050, that's a start.
Not sure you could say the same thing about the Ukraine though.
Russia may well have violated this 2003 treaty. Does it ever matter when they break the rules?
“Putin’s popularity is in the toilet...”
You’ve got the name wrong. It’s Porkyshenko’s who’s got a 85% disapproval rating and is headed for defeat in the upcoming election. That’s why he pulled of this desperation move.
Maybe because they've left Crimea. A former Crimean resident I personally know who had his home stolen certainly does not support the Russian aggression in Crimea. Most people know fake elections are continual Soviet/Russian strategy. Anyone who quotes and believes the 95% figure is a distributor of fake news.
Read articles 10,11, and 12. Capital ships are prohibited from transit through the Straits unless belonging to states with a Black Sea coastline. So are any and all warship above 15,000 tons. That pretty much rules out any effective NATO presence.
Russia’s annexation of Eastern Ukraine and its crucial naval ports was in response to the instigations of NATO wanting the Ukraine to join that Western defense pact and wanting Ukraine to house ABM missiles, all of which were extreme provocations. The loudest anti-Russian Ukrainian elements were heavily populated with out and out latter day Nazi collaborationists. I’m with Russia on this one.
>>NATO should not have expanded its alliance east of Poland. The United States should not have supported the overthrow of the pro-Moscow Ukrainian government...
What he said.
Ukraine should have kept the nukes on their soil at the breakup.
Just sayin
5.56mm
I just got back from living a year and a half right next door in Krasnodarskiy Krai, close enough to see the signs pointing to the Crimean Bridge. I encountered lots of Crimeans, and the only complaint I heard was that some goods were more expensive than in Krasnodar, because of the necessity to ship them. That pretty much evaporated when the bridge opened (I know this because I was seriously investigating shipping goods into Crimea for resale).
It is pretty obvious that Ukraine violated the treaty. Russia controls the strait, Ukraine is the one who needs to make the notification (any cry-babying about the status of Crimea aside).
[Read articles 10,11, and 12. Capital ships are prohibited from transit through the Straits unless belonging to states with a Black Sea coastline. So are any and all warship above 15,000 tons. That pretty much rules out any effective NATO presence.]
And now, Putin is moving on the Baltic states.
Reminds me of the old comedy song about all Hitler wanting was a little piece. “A little piece of Poland, a little piece of...”
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