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To: MeganC

That’s ugly and uncalled for, just like dissing soldiers fighting a war you disagree with, as the Left does.

Police officers on the street take orders, and have no say.

We fight such things in court, not against the LE officers, most of whom who probably disagree with this law.

County Sheriffs can be a different story. 54 of them (out of 64 counties) told Hickenlooper they wouldn’t enforce his similar law on high-capacity mags.

The LE guys on the street can’t do that. Hopefully this law will be challenged in court, or maybe it already has, I don’t know.

For now, anyway.


48 posted on 12/07/2018 9:42:02 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Yes, it's a Cold Civil War with Socialists. They don't have the stomach for a hot one.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Police officers on the street take orders, and have no say.

That excuse didn't work for the Nazis after WWII ended, and it won't work for anyone else "just following orders."

51 posted on 12/07/2018 9:49:08 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: SaxxonWoods; MeganC
"That’s ugly and uncalled for"

Ugly yes, but definitely called for.

52 posted on 12/07/2018 9:56:48 AM PST by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

No matter what the war is, the foot soldiers do the dying. If you don’t want to be on the wrong side of the battle quit the job. T

The problem IS awaiting laws and events to be litigated while government marches ever further towards total tyranny. When they go door to door, it won’t be during daylight hours, it will be between the hours of 3 AM and 5 AM, and they will skip YOUR house. They will come back and do another, and another and another. They will not go door to door during the same time period. They will catch one or several, miles apart, demonize them, turn even you against those people. Rinse and repeat until nobody is left to stand.

If they raid you neighbors house, it is your DUTY to interfere, or be a slave. It really is that simple.

The problem is that there are so many criminals, drug dealers, and child molesters living among us all, that we will just assume it is a deserved raid and go back to sleep.

It is really too late, we are too civilized, and too comfortable. Our chains are quite fashionable, we all have them now.


66 posted on 12/07/2018 10:42:54 AM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: SaxxonWoods; Garth Tater

“Police officers on the street take orders, and have no say.”

That is not a defense and has not been a defense since the findings of the Nuremberg Tribunals were adopted into US law as a result of Control Council Law No. 10.

“Obeying orders” is therefore NOT an affirmative defense for violating a Constitutional right, a fundamental Human Right, or (where applicable) a state constitutional right.

Also, there’s the simple fact that if the police decide to provoke a revolt (as we are seeing in France) then their badges and uniforms will not be a protection but instead will be a target for retaliation.

Which is just as it was in Colonial America in the period 1775 to 1983. The officers of the Crown were shot and killed for violating the Common Law and Magna Carta rights of the colonists.

Also, you raise the interesting prospect of sheriff’s departments protecting the rights of citizens against the avarices of police departments.

Will the police yield before a sheriff’s department that asserts the rights of the people over a mere law?

Or will they fire on sheriff’s deputies who protect citizens?

Seems to me these are valid considerations.

In any case, I restate my contempt for anyone with a badge who acts to deny a citizen their rights.

And what is truly ugly here is the insult to the liberty that was purchased for us with blood.


68 posted on 12/07/2018 10:54:55 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

The point is, those law enforcement folks are going to have to choose sides: their bosses or the Constitution. “I am just following orders” is no defense ... in any sense of the word.


80 posted on 12/07/2018 12:36:57 PM PST by IronJack
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