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Minneapolis, tackling housing crisis and inequity, votes to end single-family zoning
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | December 13, 2018 | Sarah Mervosh

Posted on 12/15/2018 12:18:47 PM PST by artichokegrower

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To: riverrunner

Maybe not if they’re suddenly next door to multi-family housing.


41 posted on 12/15/2018 1:13:10 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: riverrunner

I’m ok with that. I’ll get my parents place hear downtown mpls


42 posted on 12/15/2018 1:14:03 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: Pelham

I say too bad, change happens, get use to it.

In 1906 Las Vegas was 6 stick built one room shacks, things changed since then

Neighborhoods change, populations change, demographics change, it going to happen, building more roads and building single family homes out in the middle of some woods or field is very expensive, building up and higher density living in high demand areas is cheaper and will allow more people to live closer to work and town/city centers.

Nothing stays the same forever, it either grows or dies..


43 posted on 12/15/2018 1:32:38 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This isn’t block busting, in fact block busting wasn’t even a real ‘thing’.


44 posted on 12/15/2018 1:33:36 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: artichokegrower

... Eliminate single-family zoning ..:

What could possibly go wrong?


45 posted on 12/15/2018 1:42:00 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Kozak

Nope. Someone is connected to local real estate developers who want to put multiple residence housing in. There are going to be lots of $$$$$$ to be made.


That is how zoning works, it is theft of personal property and the rights to that property transferred illegally to government so government connected cronies can sell those rights to developers who bribe them with bags of cash.

So the builder comes into an area he wants to develop, he shadow buys the property under some BS LLC at bargain prices and meets with the mayor with a paper bag with a 5 grand in cash and asks for consideration for his development project so it can just fly through zoning.

Joe Blow who sold got screwed, he played by the rules and could only sell his property for what is zoned for. If his property could be developed legally into a low rise condo development, Joe Blow could have gotten 10X asking. Even if Joe Blow went to the zoning board for a variance to build said project and even had 100K in lawyers and engineers the zoning board will still reject Joe, screw him, he’s a nobody. Joe Blow is you and me.


46 posted on 12/15/2018 1:58:56 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: artichokegrower

I moved out of a north suburb of Minneapolis about 35 years ago. I got a 25% raise in salary to move, the average housing prices in MN were 2-1/4 times what they were where I moved, the income taxes were about 40% less than what they were in MN, and the people here usually vote Republican. I have not regretted it.


47 posted on 12/15/2018 1:59:10 PM PST by jim_trent
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Actually incorrect, studies indicate people prefer living ground level on land and not inside high rise sardine cans.

High dense living is usually mandated upon them.

The current Somali Mass immigration is not liberty but coercion. If taxes were low again, people demographics would chase healthier living.


48 posted on 12/15/2018 1:59:21 PM PST by TheNext (Participation Award Winner = CoC)
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To: artichokegrower

Heh, that’ll fail for N reasons, where N is a large number, and none of the reasons will be known or comprehensible to a progressive.


49 posted on 12/15/2018 2:02:27 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

... Eliminate single-family zoning ..:

What could possibly go wrong?


Why was here in the first place?

Why should government steal your property and sell it back to you or to someone else?

Think about it.


50 posted on 12/15/2018 2:06:36 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: TheNext

Your assertion is that Government should tell people how to live

If you want to live in a single family home, go buy one.

But you should not be required to

If you can not afford one or single family homes don’t exist in your market (like Manhattan) you are going to have to live in multi unit buildings.

My argument is that zoning itself is illegal, it steals your property rights and gives it to the government where government connected cronies get paid off to sell your rights to someone else.


51 posted on 12/15/2018 2:09:42 PM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: artichokegrower

It is so refreshing to see a journalist write an article that is free of bias and assumptions. This was not it.


52 posted on 12/15/2018 2:12:39 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: riverrunner

Do you think the powers that be will figure out how this will impact the school system?


53 posted on 12/15/2018 2:13:36 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: jim_trent

Where did you move *to*? I might be interested in following you.


54 posted on 12/15/2018 2:14:07 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: riverrunner

While, spot zoning changes (e.g. to allow a conversion of a single-family dwelling to a triplex)usually result in a price boost, for the property; I doubt that will happen in this case, because the market will be flooded with new redevelopment opportunities. Also, as others have pointed out above, if the neighbourhood is “de-gentrified”, that could more than offset any gains, due to more permissive zoning.


55 posted on 12/15/2018 2:20:07 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (.)
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To: artichokegrower
racist housing practice

Minneapolis City Council racist? They'v run the housing program for who knows how long.

56 posted on 12/15/2018 2:27:03 PM PST by aspasia
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To: artichokegrower
What this signifies is beginning of the end of single-family housing for middle-class families in Minneapolis. High-end neighborhoods will survive, but houses in middle- and lower-middle class neighborhoods will gradually be torn down and replaced with apartments of varying quality (townhouses are increasingly expensive, and are not really a solution to the low-income housing problem). I see this happening in Seattle already.

As more apartments are built, the remaining houses will be less attractive to home-buyers, and will gradually fall into disrepair and be torn down. After 20 or 30 years, all the single-family homes in the neighborhood will be gone. (Oh, maybe some old curmudgeon will hang on till the bitter end, and the neighborhood kids will call his house "the haunted house" and wonder who lives there, but that too will pass.)
57 posted on 12/15/2018 2:28:41 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Calvin Locke

The spiteful rich guy who got himself hosed in a divorce can now buy the houses surrounding the home the wife got, tear them down and build low income multi-family.


58 posted on 12/15/2018 2:32:47 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Alberta's Child
1. A detached single-family home for $600,000.
2. A two-bedroom condominium for $650,000.
3. A three-bedroom townhouse for $800,000.

That's because the 1960's house is a tear-down. The others are newer.

59 posted on 12/15/2018 2:36:09 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: artichokegrower

So the Somalis, the ugliest immigrant group in the USA, can be scattered across a city and watched. When these potential terrorists are concentrated in segregated enclaves, it’s harder to keep track of them.


60 posted on 12/15/2018 2:39:17 PM PST by txrefugee
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