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Trump is rearranging the chess pieces. Let the Saudis and UAE help their Sunni allies in their centuries old blood feuds. The US should get the hell out.
1 posted on 12/23/2018 4:21:05 PM PST by springwater13
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To: springwater13

Does Susan Rice know about this?

What about Liz Cheney?


2 posted on 12/23/2018 4:23:03 PM PST by Eddie01
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“Rushed to judgement”
“Ignored his advisers”
“Making us less safe”

Time will tell, it seems.


3 posted on 12/23/2018 4:24:32 PM PST by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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That’s been ongoing for many months.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181122-saudi-arabia-uae-send-troops-to-support-kurds-in-syria/


4 posted on 12/23/2018 4:25:16 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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Also read the three tweets in this thread. Again nothing about it in the US press.

https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1076103563082940418

Note the link to this article in the first tweet;

https://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/france-says-daesh-has-not-been-wiped-from-map-in-syria-3469694

Here’s a quote from that article; “But it has not been wiped from the map nor has its roots. It is necessary that the last pockets of this terrorist organisation be definitively defeated militarily.”

The roots of ISIS (et al) will not be defeated militarily, they have to be defeated ideologically. That’s the reason for Saudi and UAE, probably through the GCC, getting more involved. This goes back to Trump’s ME meeting in 2017, and the commitment those Arab leaders made there to fight that ideological war.


5 posted on 12/23/2018 4:26:05 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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Trump did his homework before announcing the withdrawal. Well done!


7 posted on 12/23/2018 4:32:23 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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Betting the troops will have names like Mike, Miguel, John, Juan Bob and Roberto.....


11 posted on 12/23/2018 4:40:34 PM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket)
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Once again, Mr. Trump is two or three steps ahead of the muldoons inside the beltway and the leaders of the rest of the world. He has used our so called allies to do their duty that aligns with our foreign policy goals at the same time letting them claim a victory for themselves. They don’t teach this stuff in the Ivy League. We need to send everyone in the State Department to attend to critical Indian Affairs issues in the various Indian Reservations across the nation. Before they go, we can teach them how to deal black jack and Texas Hold ‘em poker.


14 posted on 12/23/2018 4:45:42 PM PST by centurion316
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Pulling out of Syria is a mistake, They said.
Mattis resigning shows no one is in charge They said.
Trump is out of his mind, They said.

Trump agrees with Erdogan and those in the know ISIS is so far gone its hard to find them anymore, They are silent.

Saudi Arabia makes a deal with the Yemeni Rebels that undercutting Iran, They are silent.
Saudi Arabia can now move in where U.S. forces are leaving, They are silent.
Trump follows through on what he said he would do, They are silent.

That Obama gave the green light for this, mismanaged the war, which lead to ISIS nearly taking over Syria, They are silent.

Once again proving, They are the biggest liars around.

15 posted on 12/23/2018 4:47:02 PM PST by Widget Jr
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What a surprise. It appears Trump actually worked the room before his announcement. Who would have guessed that he took care of business quietly behind the scenes and the media were (and are) clueless as to what is happening.
16 posted on 12/23/2018 4:47:52 PM PST by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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That Obama pigeon poo wiped clean from that chess board, I hope.


18 posted on 12/23/2018 4:49:53 PM PST by Scram1
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Thus far, this unconfirmed. Syrians don’t want to live under Wahhabi Saudi Barbarian occupation. Neither would I.


22 posted on 12/23/2018 4:54:59 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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Bottom line: The locals have to work out their own consensus. Its not up to the American people to sacrifice their blood and treasure. History has shown our entanglements in the region have not benefited the American people. Much has been squandered and needless bitter enemies have been created.


24 posted on 12/23/2018 4:57:18 PM PST by allendale (.)
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Would you like to play a game?

25 posted on 12/23/2018 4:57:45 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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The left losing their sh*t over pull outs of Afghanistan and Syria is priceless. These are the same a-holes who started Vietnam and stopped the funding,called Afghanistan another Vietnam, constantly screamed over “no blood for oil”/Bush/Cheney Wars. They loved Obama’s illegal wars and collusion in Libya,Syria and Ukraine.


38 posted on 12/23/2018 5:27:31 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Slimes killin slimes killin slimes!!

WIN! MAGA!

41 posted on 12/23/2018 5:36:46 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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Caliph Erdogan should have learned the lesson from Machiavelli, “Never do an enemy a small injury.”

Or as Emerson re-phrased it, “When you strike a king you must kill him.”

Well Erdogan’s people ran the Khashoggi story to try to unseat the Saudi Prince (MBS). But MBS survived.

Now that Saudi Prince is going to become the patron of the Kurds - specifically the Kurdish group that would most like to see Erdogan dead or out of power. They could probably stir up quite a bit of trouble for Erdogan among Turkey’s large and growing domestic Kurdish population as well.

Maybe now those Kurds have a new ally who hates Erdogan as much as them - Middle East style.


43 posted on 12/23/2018 5:46:07 PM PST by BeauBo
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Obama was the father of ISIS. The left and #NeverTrumptards bemoaning leaving Afghanistan and Syria is pathetic and asinine.


46 posted on 12/23/2018 6:01:21 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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Can’t be. I read on FR just a day ago abou how Trump was being dense, illogical and all kinds of things from armchair never trumpers. Crazy we still let them breath.


49 posted on 12/23/2018 6:09:33 PM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens!)
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Lets see if I have this correct.

1. Saudi Arabia and the UAE have sent military forces to areas controlled by the Kurdish YPG group in north-east Syria. An area between the Kurdish PKK/YPG and Daesh in the Deir Ez-Zor countryside.

As soon as US Troops pull out . . . . the following actions take place.

2. Ankara (Turkey) is preparing to launch an expanded military operation with the Free Syrian Army against the Kurdish PKK group in the northeast of Syria.

3. Russian forces currently in Syria will take action to restrain Hezbollah and Iranian activity. Russia will continue to give Israel the freedom to strike Hezbollah and Iranian targets and weaponry that threaten the “balance of power” in Syria.

According to the Jordanian official, it was these understandings between Trump and Putin that paved the way for the U.S. decision to pull its forces from Syria.

5. Syrian troops massing Tabaqa and Manjib

It was announced Dec 20, French troops were being sent in to replace US Troops.

France to replace US in Syria

Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates guarding Kurds from Turkey while Russia, Israel and Syria fight remnants of ISIS, Hezbollah and Iranian interests.

Send in the French . . . . . what can go wrong?

By the way a Christmas postcard from Syria


51 posted on 12/23/2018 6:21:36 PM PST by saywhatagain
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Precisely.


52 posted on 12/23/2018 6:26:53 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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