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How Banks Unwittingly Finance Mass Shootings
nytimes.com ^ | 12/24/2018 | ANDREW ROSS SORKIN

Posted on 12/25/2018 8:07:09 AM PST by rktman

A New York Times examination of mass shootings since the Virginia Tech attack in 2007 reveals how credit cards have become a crucial part of the planning of these massacres. There have been 13 shootings that killed 10 or more people in the last decade, and in at least eight of them, the killers financed their attacks using credit cards. Some used credit to acquire firearms they could not otherwise have afforded.

Those eight shootings killed 217 people. The investigations undertaken in their aftermath uncovered a rich trove of information about the killers’ spending. There were plenty of red flags, if only someone were able to look for them, law enforcement experts say.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 1a; 2a; banglist; credit; creditcards; kaba
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Good morning FReepers and Merry Christmas. I didn't see this "gift" from the nyt the other day but here it is. So, how long, if some don't already, before the cc companies decide, in the interest of safety, to deny firearms transactions? Shhhhhh. They probably won't think that someone might be bright enough to just get a cash advance and proceed anyway.

Merry Christmas.

1 posted on 12/25/2018 8:07:09 AM PST by rktman
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To: Drew68

We knew this next step was coming.


2 posted on 12/25/2018 8:12:05 AM PST by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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To: rktman

Next up will be denying gas purchases using a credit card because cars kill and maim.


3 posted on 12/25/2018 8:14:03 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: rktman

This had already been happening a couple of years ago in certain locations. O-hole’s administration put pressure on some banks to dump bank accounts of some firearms manufacturers and gun shops. The slimes is just trying to get the ball rolling again.


4 posted on 12/25/2018 8:16:28 AM PST by Lockbar (What would Vlad The Impaler do?)
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To: rktman

As opposed to the way the media, like the NYT, ‘wittingly’ encourage mass killers by making super stars and household names out of them when they murder people.


5 posted on 12/25/2018 8:18:19 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: rktman

Blame everybody but the perps.


6 posted on 12/25/2018 8:19:13 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: rktman

Which is why the left wants a cashless society where some transactions are banned (guns, ammo) and everything is tracked and taxed.


7 posted on 12/25/2018 8:20:06 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Lockbar

SEEKING!!!
Gazillionaire to open ‘The 2nd Amendment Bank of America’. Or, ‘Patriots Bank and Trust’. Or, ‘Gun Owners/Sportsmans Credit Union’. Text to #my2ndAmend.

Merry Christmas.


8 posted on 12/25/2018 8:20:43 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: SkyDancer

A pathetically blatant attempt to introduce another way to make firearms purchases more difficult. These people always think they’ve being very clever but it’s obvious to anyone with even a modest IQ.


9 posted on 12/25/2018 8:21:28 AM PST by Bayan
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To: SkyDancer

WHY are car manufacturers selling cars to mass murderers? Shouldn’t they be held responsible too? Why isn’t David “The Media” Hogg pounding the podium on this?


10 posted on 12/25/2018 8:24:46 AM PST by BipolarBob (Have a McClane Christmas : "Now I have a machine gun HO-HO - HO".)
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To: rktman

During the last .22 ammo dearth, folks ‘invested’ in ammo bricks, paying with the card.

“It’s here on the shelf. Better get it now! I can pay later.”


11 posted on 12/25/2018 8:26:18 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: Bayan

Lots of ways around their pathetic attempt to stifle gun or ammunition purchases.


12 posted on 12/25/2018 8:28:50 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: rktman
Gun store price for XXX gun, $499 or 499 tokens.

Gun store price for 1 token, $1

Customer buys 499 tokens for $499

Customer gives his 499 tokens to gun store, and after gun store runs whatever background checks or other obstacles put in place by govt, customer walks out with his gun of choice.

Description of charge on credit card, 499 tokens.

13 posted on 12/25/2018 8:29:22 AM PST by mikefive (RLTW/DOL)
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To: rktman

I bet the guy that bought the booze for the NYT Christmas party used a credit card.


14 posted on 12/25/2018 8:30:12 AM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: BipolarBob

Liberal snowflakes (yeah, I know, redundant) should be yelling at people driving cars because they’re potential killers.


15 posted on 12/25/2018 8:30:37 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: rktman

Ban credit cards! That’d solve a lot of problems and not just mass shootings.


16 posted on 12/25/2018 8:31:34 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Scrambler Bob

Or, as I said, get a cash advance. Yeah, I know. Didn’t want to take a chance of walking away from it. Lucky for me I stumbled on a bunch of it right before the “crisis” that a widow had brought to the store to get rid of. All unopened boxes and probably 30% below retail at the time. Sometimes you just land in the right place at the right time. :-)

Merry Christmas.


17 posted on 12/25/2018 8:31:43 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: rktman
Money has been involved, in one way or another, in every single crime in history.

We must banish money!

18 posted on 12/25/2018 8:33:39 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: rktman
Prisons are stuffed full of democrats. The "mass shooters" have all been democrats/leftists. Baltimore & Chicago democrats have racked-up huge body counts.

If only law enforcement had a way to track & monitor these red flags, Americans would be spared countless, horrific crimes.

19 posted on 12/25/2018 8:34:05 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: VanShuyten

You mean the same party that someone drunk drove away from and takes out a family of 5 but survives unscratched? That credit card fueled Christmas Party? Sad commentary on society. But luckily the repeal of the 18th Amendment gives folks the right to get plastered and drive. Right?

Merry Christmas.


20 posted on 12/25/2018 8:35:25 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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