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Armed Teachers Would Make Schools As Safe As Armed Cops
Townhall.com ^ | January 7, 2019 | Carl Jackson

Posted on 01/07/2019 5:53:37 PM PST by Kaslin

The Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission stirred up controversy last week when they erred on the side of common sense and the Second Amendment. The Commission investigating the so-called “Valentine’s Day massacre” that left 14 students and 3 teachers dead, and another 17 people wounded recommended that teachers who were willing to volunteer, undergo background checks, psychological evaluations and training, be allowed to carry concealed firearms on campus.

Opponents of the recommendation argue that armed-teachers wouldn’t stop mass shootings and it’s a bad idea that would make students less safe. They feel teachers should be teaching, not playing Robocop. Some of them have asked the questions, what if a teacher goes crazy and shoots a student? Or, what if the teacher is so inept with a gun that they accidentally shoot anyone who may be in the way? They believe guns are better off left in the hands of trained professionals such as cops and military personnel. But are they right? I don’t think so.

First off, the only things that separate an armed-cop from an armed-teacher is training and permission to carry. There’s nothing a cop can learn about firing a gun that a teacher cannot. Additionally, teachers tend to be patient, caring and protective of their students. It’s no wonder so many have stood in the line of fire in school shootings. You may recall that instead of engaging Nikolas Cruz in a fire fight, it was the Broward County deputies themselves, led by Sheriff Scott Israel, that hid behind their vehicles and school walls while students at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High were executed by the killer. Several staffers courageously stood between the shooter and their students. They were the first line of defense for those kids.

Now that you know my arguments, let’s unpack them further.

First, training. Police who are trained in firearms may have an advantage over the average citizen, but not necessarily over an avid gun enthusiast who visits a range frequently. If a policeman freshens up on his skills monthly, but his neighbor goes to the range weekly, who has the advantage over whom? Wearing a uniform and having the authority to carry a firearm doesn’t determine someone’s skill level when it comes to shooting.

Secondly, we all have fond memories of our favorite teacher growing up. I’m sure you can remember that teacher who took the time to give you words of encouragement that made you believe your dreams were possible. They realized your potential even before you did. Remember that teacher who wasn’t afraid to call your parents if it meant they could get better results out of you because they knew you were capable of more? We all can remember those teachers that simply showed they cared. Now, imagine one of those teachers voluntarily undergoing a psychological evaluation and firearms training to protect you from harm in the unlikely event of a mass shooting. Do you think they’d hesitate to take a bullet or fire one to protect your child from a shooter if they had to? I don’t. They have a bond with their students that cops never will.

Lastly, if you add firearms training to a teacher’s natural proclivity to be caring and pragmatic, it’s highly unlikely they’ll snap and go on a shooting rampage themselves. Never mind the ridiculous notion that they’d be so inept with a gun that they’d shoot everyone in site but the bad guy. If teachers were capable of committing mass shootings in schools, we’d be hearing about a growing epidemic of teacher shootings. Think about it. How easy would it be for a teacher to sneak a gun on campus and shoot someone? Extremely easy. Yet, we don’t hear about that happening.

Furthermore, with all due respect to our cops, their suicide rate compared to teachers are off the charts. Yet, we trust them to protect our communities with firearms. According to a 2016 column in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution titled “Teachers have the lowest suicide rate,” a Center for Disease Control and Prevention report revealed that “the suicide rate among people in education, training and library was 7.5 per 100,000 workers. That’s the lowest among all 22 occupations included in the report.” The highest suicide rate, particularly with women, were seen amongst police officers, firefighters and correction officers due to on-the-job stress and isolation from communities.

The bottom line is this, if we want to get serious about protecting our kids from mass shootings while they’re in school we should develop standard school safety requirements across the country. Including, metal detectors where necessary, mental screenings for kids that have shown repeated violent and threatening behavioral patterns, there should be a minimum of one school safety officer on campus trained to engage a mass shooter where possible and diffuse less violent scenarios. And last but far from least, we need to arm teachers that are willing to voluntarily undergo firearms training and psychological examinations.

We trust teachers with our kid’s futures. Why not their lives?


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1 posted on 01/07/2019 5:53:37 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“They believe guns are better off left in the hands of trained professionals such as cops...”

Oh like that worthy Broward coward?


2 posted on 01/07/2019 6:02:15 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bonemaker

It is PC leftist orthodox religion that police should be the only ones to have guns.


3 posted on 01/07/2019 6:06:46 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie ("The MSM is the enemy of the American people"...Democrat Pat Caddell)
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To: Kaslin

A county school policeman told me that the reluctance to arm teachers is not because of distrust of teachers. It is because planners fear that students will overwhelm and take a weapon from a teacher. Think of inner-city schools.


4 posted on 01/07/2019 6:15:17 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

That actually makes sense.


5 posted on 01/07/2019 6:22:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Yep. Protect no one. Let them all fare for themselves at inner city schools.


6 posted on 01/07/2019 6:29:51 PM PST by Misplaced Texan (July 4, 2009 - the first day of the 2nd Revolution!)
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To: Kaslin

The naysayers seem to imply that the police always hit what they are aiming at like on TV. Watch the dashcam videos and see them empty a couple magazines to hit a stationary perp in a parked vehicle.


7 posted on 01/07/2019 6:30:34 PM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: Misplaced Texan

I forgot the /sarc.

However, I thought further and wondered how many school shootings have occurred at predominately high risk schools vs. non-high risk schools.

Maybe there is a difference that can be used to reach an end point.


8 posted on 01/07/2019 6:33:05 PM PST by Misplaced Texan (July 4, 2009 - the first day of the 2nd Revolution!)
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To: Kaslin
Opponents of the recommendation argue that armed-teachers wouldn’t stop mass shootings and it’s a bad idea that would make students less safe.

Those opponents are either brainless, or just playing the anti-gun politics.

FACT: when somebody feels endangered, they will react immediately in the best way they can, with what's at their disposable. No doubt that any teacher would feel threatened by a gun-wielding nutjob, and her/his first instinct will be to use his/her gun to protect him/herself and the students around. Give the nutjob a chance, and BANG!, you're dead instead of the nutjob.
9 posted on 01/07/2019 6:55:25 PM PST by adorno
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To: PROCON; DaveLoneRanger; carriage_hill

Ping.


10 posted on 01/07/2019 6:56:52 PM PST by lightman (Obama's legacy in 13 letters: BLM, ISIS, & ANTIFA. New axis of evil.)
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Require concealed carry permit and an annual tactical class to carry on campus. Now how you get them to go to the gun range regularly I wonder? How come just teachers? How about custodians, cooks, and groundskeepers. Concealed carry means only the principal knows. Post a sign saying, “This is not a gun free zone. Members of the faculty and staff may be armed”. Uncertainty has a great deterrent effect.


11 posted on 01/07/2019 6:58:54 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: The_Media_never_lie
It is PC leftist orthodox religion that police should be the only ones to have guns.

"Chust for temporary", as we say in the Pennsylwania Dutch Country.

Their REAL goal is to make the Police as disarmed as the British Bobbies.

12 posted on 01/07/2019 7:00:43 PM PST by lightman (Obama's legacy in 13 letters: BLM, ISIS, & ANTIFA. New axis of evil.)
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13 posted on 01/07/2019 7:02:48 PM PST by lightman (Obama's legacy in 13 letters: BLM, ISIS, & ANTIFA. New axis of evil.)
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To: Kaslin

Just a couple of thoughts on the matter.

There’s a reason it’s called concealed carry.

You don’t have to arm all teachers but potential school shooters should have a reasonable expectation that they might encounter an armed person at any time.

Armed citizens have a better record of engaging the correct person than the police do since they’re on the scene as the situation unfolds. Notice the police have all the people exit with their hands up since they don’t know who is who.


14 posted on 01/07/2019 7:03:51 PM PST by GMMC0987
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15 posted on 01/07/2019 7:11:24 PM PST by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for Totalitarian)
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To: lightman

Bringing a POS Glock to an AR-15 fight probably end well, except if it’s a Kimber 1911 .45cal ACP 230gr HP. Best to bring a better, Class 3, AR-15.


16 posted on 01/07/2019 7:19:10 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: PROCON

Where is that Capt Obvious gif?


17 posted on 01/07/2019 7:44:16 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Twitter is Trump's laser pointer and the media are all cats.)
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To: Retain Mike

“Uncertainty has a great deterrent effect.”

That uncertainty certainly enhances the deterrent effect of submarines.


18 posted on 01/07/2019 8:09:55 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Kaslin

Honestly, I’m not sure what would work in California. Teachers are assaulted here. I’d hate to see a teacher have to shoot some kid who thought they were on a mission from God.

Some little fourth grader (looked like) girl kicked a male teacher in the crotch. It’s on instagram.

What do you do in an instance like that?

These kids are out of control, but you don’t want to execute them. It’s a very tough dilema.


19 posted on 01/07/2019 8:27:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Where is that Capt Obvious gif?


20 posted on 01/07/2019 8:47:50 PM PST by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for Totalitarian)
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