Posted on 01/10/2019 8:14:31 AM PST by richardb72
Should schools have teachers carry guns? Abstract With 20 states having teachers and staff carrying guns to varying degrees on school property, we don’t need to guess how the policy would work. Fears of teachers carrying guns in terms of accidents or other problems have not materialized. Letting teachers carry is the only effective way to overcome the strategic advantages of mass public killers. The other alternatives to preventing mass public shootings have real limits.
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Seeing as teachers are already poisoning the minds of children with destructive indoctrination and the vast majority of them would sooner abort their own kids than nurture them, the clear answer is ‘not on your life’.
They do in a few other countries....our children are taught that guns are bad....we need a more realistic view and fire arms education.
If I were a public school teacher and carrying, I would choose to IWB or pocket carry, and concealed would mean what it says. The kids would not know I was carrying. In almost any school, I would also carry empty chamber because of the relative risk of an "oopsie" versus the risk of needing that firearm without even the time to rack the slide. As much as I love Glocks, I certainly would not carry a compact Glock with a round in the chamber for school duty unless I expected to need it more than once a year.
I also suspect teachers feel more attachment toward their students and toward children in general than the school-assigned police officers do, so teachers would be more likely to confront a shooter than the Coward of Broward, Camera Hogg, and their ilk. So, yes, schools should permit trained and stable teachers to carry responsibly while on school property.
“If the kids carry so should the teachers.”
Hi al baby!
Sounds like you were in the same school system I was.
> I don’t understand why a school protection force or officers assigned is not being considered. <
Teachers have nothing to do with that decision. But if they did, most would welcome armed police officers in their buildings.
The local school board makes that decision. And in most cases, the fear of lawsuits trumps the concern for student safety. Suppose some jury found that a school cop used excessive force. The payout would be huge.
Schools boards do not want to take that risk.
PERMIT the teachers and designated staff to carry concealed weapons as a defensive measure in the event of a school being invaded and active shooter situation arises. The permit would be conditioned on, first, the WILLINGNESS to become an accomplished and knowledgeable defender against active shooters, and secondly on the necessary training to become an effective deterrent to such invasions.
This is a backup plan for when the local law enforcement officer, who may or may not be on campus, is unable to respond in a timely manner, and absolutely a stopgap measure until competent civil authority arrives.
As a further measure, the teaching of ALL school children, in an age-appropriate way, about the care, identification, purposes, and effects of gun usage, beginning in the primary grades, and proceeding to more and better defined instruction, so that by the eighth grade or so, there are students who are actually capable of correctly handling, maintaining, storing and using guns, ranging from pistols up to light caliber rifles and/or shotguns, with drills and training continued into the graduation from high school, when proficiency with firearms, or a suitable equivalent program, is a prerequisite for a diploma. Certain exceptions may have to be made to accommodate those who are unable to participate in this program.
Now of course, there are some few who, by inclination or simply ineptness and total lack of aptitude for handling of guns, should be, must be, excused from this course of training, and as an alternative, be given a comprehensive course in means to evade, avoid, escape, or confront an active shooter, should the situation arise, and stand some fair chance of surviving the encounter. These students would have to have a passing grade on this course, offered as an alternative to the firearms training described above.
At the very least, potential troublemakers will be identified and possibly weeded out before they reach a critical point, and the others will not be totally defenseless.
Yes. Next question.
JoMa
The 2nd Amendment was intended to give citizens the right to carry a gun - whether they are at home, out shopping, at the movies, in a restaurant, or at work.
So yes, if teachers wish to exercise their 2nd amendment rights, the school should not be allowed to stop them - in fact, they should pay them extra for doing so.
Regarding all the caveats about training, psychological evaluations, and locking the guns in safes - that is BS.
Citizens who choose to exercise their 2nd amendment right to legally carry a firearm tend to be well above average in responsibility and psychological stability.
Despite the Leftist propaganda to the contrary, all the legal gun owners I know are highly responsible individuals - not careless wackos. They are hunters, farmers, collectors, target shooters, ex military, ex LE - they tend to take their responsibility as gun owners very seriously.
Some of these legal gun owners happen to be teachers, and carrying a firearm on the job would only make the schools safer. The idea that a citizen gun owner would need to be specially vetted in order to carry at a school is preposterous, and locking up their guns in wall safes would just be stupid.
The reality is that there would likely only be a few teachers in each school who wished to carry. Most likely, nobody would even know which teachers had a weapon. But the mere knowledge that some teachers may be carrying would be a huge deterrent to school shootings.
Perpetrators of mass shootings at schools, movie theaters, concert halls and night clubs are typically cowards who know they are walking into a gun free zone where they can slaughter unarmed innocents unapposed - that has to change.
Anybody who wants to should carry.
So far as I know, no one is discussing that. There's been some discussion about some willing participants getting training. Quite different.
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The real question is just how dangerous is a public education for our children and our future, e.g. Ocasio?!!!
The question is framed incorrectly. The way it's worded it sounds like he's wondering if schools would require teachers to carry guns. I don't think anyone is in favor of that. The question should be: should schools allow teachers to carry guns. Yes.
Early days of forced bussing in Los Angeles mid 70s
If you are worried about an "oopsie" then you probably shouldn't be carrying anyway.
Yes. Next question. (School district should subsidize target practice, and stock rubber bullets in 9mm and .357.
What are the expectations for teachers that carry? If shots are heard coming from the hallway, should they remain in their room and defend their students or is the expectation that they should go to the hallway and seek out the shooter?
Do not require being armed, but permit them to be armed if they wish.
they are demonrats and support a corrupt union which btw supports gun control for you and me and the rest of the rabble.....
I do not trust them......unless, they are legitimate vets or former police.....
I don’t think arming teachers is the answer. It’s asking for trouble. A kid could strip a teacher of hit or her gun while the teacher is otherwise engaged in teaching other students. The number of school shootings could actually go up. What if a teacher decides to use a kid for target practice? Does an armed Leftist teacher even further chill freedom of speech and the exchange of ideas? I would say yes.
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