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Oceans warming faster than expected, set heat record in 2018 - scientists
Reuters ^ | 10 January 2019 | Alister Doyle

Posted on 01/10/2019 5:40:29 PM PST by zeestephen

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To: zeestephen

What kind of “scientists”? Climatologists? Witch doctors would have more luck.

Equations in God knows how many variables.


21 posted on 01/10/2019 5:52:52 PM PST by onedoug
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To: shelterguy

I’ll bet that’s within margin-of-error.


22 posted on 01/10/2019 5:53:15 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: neverevergiveup

They combine ship derived temperature hull readings in the past with buoy readings in the present. Typical data trick done by the half wit leftist. Kinda like when they compare geological heat indexes of the ancient past to modern day temperatures. Hey, its Planet Ape. That is about as good as the apes get.


23 posted on 01/10/2019 5:54:05 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: RightGeek

I believe you!!


24 posted on 01/10/2019 5:54:59 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: justa-hairyape

Sounds like comparing bananas with kumquats.


25 posted on 01/10/2019 5:57:28 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: zeestephen

The libs are doing everything they can to push this horsecrap.
Follow the money trail. They see billions, if not trillions, in new taxes, fees, etc. to enrich the UniParty and themselves. It’s all BS.


26 posted on 01/10/2019 5:58:31 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: zeestephen

Sure it is... It’s extracting heat from the atmosphere making the atmosphere colder.


27 posted on 01/10/2019 5:59:20 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: zeestephen

11000+ volcanos under the pacific ocean


28 posted on 01/10/2019 6:00:02 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: zeestephen

If marine life was so brittle it would die off over only a degree or two change, we would have no marine life now.

Temperatures drop sub-60s on the California Coast each winter. By summer the temperatures reach 68. I suspect there are days when both these limits are exceeded.

The source I found gave one temperature per month.

Here it is. Perhaps we should have a wake for all sea life huh Lefties?

https://www.currentresults.com/Oceans/Temperature/los-angeles-average-water-temperature.php


29 posted on 01/10/2019 6:04:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: neverevergiveup

Ugh.... 3,900 floats in our vast oceans. Oh yeah, they got it covered.


30 posted on 01/10/2019 6:04:53 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: zeestephen
Overall, temperatures in the ocean down to 2,000 meters rose about 0.1 degree Celsius (0.18F) from 1971-2010, he said. The 2013 U.N. assessment estimated slower rates of heat uptake but did not give a single comparable number.

What's the margin of error?

31 posted on 01/10/2019 6:08:03 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: zeestephen
Athens gets snow as Greece shivers in record cold spell
32 posted on 01/10/2019 6:11:40 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: zeestephen

Climate scientists and journalists should be required to be proficient in at least high school math .... it would be a quantum leap for climate scientists and journalists.


33 posted on 01/10/2019 6:13:09 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
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To: zeestephen
network of 3,900 floats deployed in the oceans since 2000, showed more warming since 1971 than calculated by the latest U.N. assessment of climate change

New instrumentation deployed since 2000 can measure retroactively 30 years prior? Magic instruments!

In another place it shows that water temps at 2000 feet depth have shown 1/10 of a degree of increase over 3 decades. I can't believe 1/10 of a degree of increase in 3 decades is even reliably measured, much less anything to cause alarm. What is the margin of error, I wonder? They should be ashamed of the way this article was written, the slant of it, given the tenuousness of these stupid conclusions.

Like everything else in this field of pseudoscience, actual numbers destroy their premises.

34 posted on 01/10/2019 6:13:35 PM PST by Migraine
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To: zeestephen

“The Temp. (Rent) is too damn high!”


35 posted on 01/10/2019 6:14:11 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: headstamp 2

10 Jan: ClimateDepot: Climate scientist retires, then declares ‘I am a skeptic’ – Offers to debate – Rejects ‘denier’ label: ‘We don’t live in medieval times’
Dr. Anastasios Tsonis, emeritus distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. Authored more than 130 peer-reviewed papers and nine books:
‘I am a skeptic not just about global warming but also about many other aspects of science...Climate is too complicated to attribute its variability to one cause. We first need to understand the natural climate variability (which we clearly don’t; I can debate anybody on this issue). Only then we can assess the magnitude and reasons of climate change.’
‘If science were settled, then we should pack things up and go home.’

‘It is my educated opinion that many forces have shaped global temperature variation. Human activity, the oceans, extraterrestrial forces (solar activity and cosmic rays) and other factors are all in the mix...We should be skeptical of claims that the science of a complicated and unpredictable system is settled.’...
http://www.climatedepot.com/2019/01/10/climate-scientist-retires-then-declares-i-am-a-skeptic-offers-to-debate-rejects-denier-label-we-dont-live-in-medieval-times/


36 posted on 01/10/2019 6:15:24 PM PST by MAGAthon
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

Seafood stew in a couple years, pass the oyster crackers.


37 posted on 01/10/2019 6:15:27 PM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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To: yesthatjallen

See my post #34; we’re thinking along the same lines.


38 posted on 01/10/2019 6:15:31 PM PST by Migraine
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To: zeestephen

- pseudo-scientists


39 posted on 01/10/2019 6:17:28 PM PST by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Lagmeister

If you study Thermodynamics formally, you are taught that temperature is a point property an an instant in time. Expressed mathematically,

T = f(x,y,z,t)

Average temperature is nontrivial to determine in non-well-mixed, complex systems. The ocean fits that bill in spades.

I’d love to have a serious chat with a couple of Thermodynamics PhDs on this topic.


40 posted on 01/10/2019 6:21:51 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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