IS SOCIAL MEDIA HATE SPEECH?

Bob Lonsberry ^ | 24JAN19 | Bob Lonsberry

[discipler]

Obama, Hillary, and the looney left keeps lighting the fuse. Antifa is allowed to get in the face of peaceful marchers. They taunt and threaten. They light the fuse.

[beef]

Does anybody know who or what James Hodgkinson followed on social media? Does anyone care? We know Floyd Lee Corkins liked the SPLC. Did we shut them down yet? How about the numerous Muslims who have tried to buy bombs and guns from FBI agents? Do we have searchable lists of their bookmarks? I would agree that social media and the internet in general are driving some people nuts, but the outrage is very selective.

[FrankR]

ANYTHING a liberal disagrees with is “hate speech”.

[marktwain]

Mr. Lonsberry indicts and convicts the kid before any evidence is heard. "Police say"?

Bears repeating.

Especially after the Catholic Covington kids bashing.

[Vaquero]

STAY OFF SOCIAL MEDIA (yelling? Yeah. )

“fools’ names, like fools’ faces, are often seen in public places“

Unlike sites like freerepublic where I’m vaquero and you are some other pen name. You stick your face and name out there and talk about something that is acceptable to a large percentage but LOATHED by a sick leftist minority who can too easily find where you are and if you are lucky…just try to get you in trouble with leftist power brokers. If you are not you may be stalked.

Social media. A way to get Arrested, Fired, divorced, shot.

[HartleyMBaldwin]

“Mr. Lonsberry indicts and convicts the kid before any evidence is heard.”

That jumped out at me, too.

I don’t often read Bob Lonsberry’s columns anyway, because of his ridiculous writing style. Every sentence (or sentence fragment, even) doesn’t need to be a separate paragraph. It always reminds me of a seventh-grader trying to stretch a scant half page of content into the three pages required by the teacher.

[nathanbedford]

When we conservatives who love the Constitution, and who are especially fond of the Bill of Rights, opposed the imposition of harsher sentences advance by leftists for crimes if they were connected with so-called "hate speech," our instincts were perfectly in tune.

The "hate" element was justified because it allegedly made the crime more heinous and it affected only the punishment not the element of the crime. But we are now watching the metamorphosis of hate crime into hate speech. In other words what the left now regards as "hateful" will soon become a crime rather than a constitutionally protected utterance and the crime will exist without an ancillary act. The speech alone will be enough to convict.

This is the inevitable consequence of trifling with the First Amendment. We are on the march toward tyranny.

[vannrox]

“we are on the march towards tyranny”

Bull turds! We are in a state of it, as it is currently being practiced. We are in the opening salvos of the second civil war and to pretend otherwise could be lethal for ourselves and our loved ones.

[usconservative]

Sounds like the social-media/digital version of SWATTING.

[Haiku Guy]

I dropped all Social Media except FR.

My life is much better for it.

[Liz]

Weaponizing free speech against the speaker is a-n-o-t-h-e-r heinous legacy of the Obama police state.

The American Obama despises——tarred as extremists by his admin, why alarm bells should go off whenever Obama,
the obedient media, and lefty Democrats speak of the need to crack down on “extremism”.

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Obama Declares War On ‘Extremism’ – Are You An ‘Extremist’
FR Posted 1/13/15 by seekandfind

A list of 72 types of Americans that are considered to be “extremists” or “potential terrorists” in official U.S. government documents. This list will really give you a good idea of what Barack Obama means when he uses the word “extremist”. Each of these 72 items is linked (at web site). As you can see, this list potentially includes most of the country…

OBAMA’S LIST OF EXTREMISTS AS FOUND IN OBAMA-ERA OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS: Those that talk about “individual liberties,” that advocate for states’ rights, that want “to make the world a better place,” that are interested in “defeating the Communists”

Those that believe “that the interests of one’s own nation are separate from the interests of other nations or the common interest of all nations.” Anyone that holds a “political ideology that considers the state to be unnecessary, harmful,or undesirable.” Anyone that possesses an “intolerance toward other religions.” Those that “take action to fight against the exploitation of the environment and/or animals”

“Anti-Gay,” “Anti-Immigrant,” “Anti-Muslim,”“The Patriot Movement,” “Opposition to equal rights for gays and lesbians”

Members of the Family Research Council, the American Family Association, Members of the American Border Patrol/American Patrol, the Federation for American Immigration Reform, the Tennessee Freedom Coalition, the Christian Action Network, citizens networks.

Those “opposed to the New World Order,” engaged in “conspiracy theorizing”, those that believe that Mexico, Canada and the United States “are secretly planning to merge into a European Union-like entity that will be known as the ‘North American Union’”

Anyone opposed to Agenda 21, anyone concerned about FEMA camps, that “fears impending gun control or weapons confiscations,” the militia movement, sovereign citizen movement, that “don’t think they should have to pay taxes”

Anyone that “complains about bias,” that “believes in government conspiracies, that “is frustrated with mainstream ideologies,” that “visits extremist websites/blogs,” that “establishes website/blog to display extremist views,” that “attends rallies for extremist causes,” that “exhibits extreme religious intolerance,” that is personally connected with a grievance,” that “suddenly acquires weapons,” that “organizes protests inspired by extremist ideology”

“Militia or unorganized militia,” “General right-wing extremist,” Citizens that have “bumper stickers” that are patriotic or anti-U.N., those that refer to an “Army of God,” that are “fiercely nationalistic (as opposed to universal and international in orientation),” that are “anti-global,” that are “suspicious of centralized federal authority,” that “revere individual liberty,” that “believe in conspiracy theories”

Those that have “a belief that one’s personal and/or national ‘way of life’ is under attack,” that possess “a belief in the need to be prepared for an attack either by participating in paramilitary preparations and training or survivalism,” that would “impose strict religious tenets or laws on society (fundamentalists)” that would “insert religion into the political sphere,” that would “seek to politicize religion,” that have “supported political movements for autonomy.”
Anyone that is “anti-abortion.”

Anyone that is “Rightwing” including “Returning veterans,” those concerned about “illegal immigration,” those that “believe in the right to bear arms,” anyone that is engaged in “ammunition stockpiling”

[Liz]

This is the legacy of America-hating Obama.
CIRCA 2013 Obama targets returning vets as terrorists (planned searches of military homes)

Educational materials from the Department of Defense (DOD) depict conservative organizations as “hate groups” and to be aware that “many extremists will talk of individual liberties, states’ rights, and how to make the world a better place.”

The documents repeatedly cite the leftwing Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as a resource for identifying “hate groups.”

Judicial Watch obtained the DOD documents in a response to a Freedom of Information Act request (FOIA) filed on April 8, 2013. The FOIA requested “Any and all records concerning, regarding, or related to the preparation and presentation of training materials on hate groups or hate crimes distributed or used by the Air Force.”

Included in the 133 pages of lesson plans and PowerPoint slides provided by the Air Force is a January 2013 Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute “student guide” entitled “Extremism.” The document says that it is “for training purposes only” and “do not use on the job.” Highlights include:

•The document defines extremists as “a person who advocates the use of force or violence; advocates supremacist causes based on race, ethnicity, religion, gender, or national origin; or otherwise engages to illegally deprive individuals or groups of their civil rights.”

[TheZMan]

Wanna fix the BS in social media? Remove anonymity.

[Altura Ct.]

As well as still others – Confederate pride groups – who smell of something worse than conservatism.

FU Bob!

[circlecity]

"Mr. Lonsberry indicts and convicts the kid before any evidence is heard."

Yep. I remember during Obama's first term his justice dept arrested 4 or 5 "domestic terrorist" militia guys from Indiana and Ohio to much media fanfare. Ultimately it turned out to be BS and the major charges were all ultimately dismissed.

[Ciaphas Cain]

See my tag line.

[Spok]

When discussions of criminalizing hate speech began, it was sobviously a slippery slope that could result in criminalizing dissent. Under the guise of hate speech regulation, free speech is being throttled.

[John O]

You’re slacking off. That post wasn’t in haiku!! LOL

[John O]

Who was arrested over the weekend for, according to the police, wanting to travel across the state and kill a bunch of people living at a religious commune called Islamberg

So what did the kid actually do? Did he do anything?

If they were honest about half the people in America would "want" to go kill a bunch of moslems in islamberg. But we don't because that would be wrong.

Not a day goes by that I don't "want" to punch some liberal in the face. But I don't because that would be wrong.

It is not a crime to "want" something or "want" to do something.

This kid was possibly arrested for a thought crime. And those who did the arresting should be sued for every last dime they have for violating his rights!

[IYAS9YAS]

From what I have gathered, I don’t think the dork is actually unclear on the concept.