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1 posted on 02/10/2019 8:24:14 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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There are a lot of good teachers. The vast majority of them mean well. They are limited by the lack of any discipline allowed, also too many of them believe the crap they are taught in ed school.

I feared my teachers - one whack from the wooden paddle with the holes to reduce air drag was enough for me. Nobody fears their teachers today - not even the 4 year olds in pre-K.


2 posted on 02/10/2019 8:33:04 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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Good God, lady, get to the freaking point.


3 posted on 02/10/2019 8:33:53 PM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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Why should millions of perfectly normal adolescents, not all of them ghettoized, resist being educated? The reason is that they know deep down that due to the color of their skin, less is expected of them.


The only cure is tough times...…………………………….


5 posted on 02/10/2019 8:37:07 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Good read - from the jump:

“By far the most commonly heard word throughout the school, literally hundreds of times a day, like a weapon fired indiscriminately, was “nigga.” The most amazing story from those painful years was the time I said it myself.

Sometimes you just have had enough. One day a girl sitting towards the back of the classroom shouted at some boy up front, “Yo! Nigga! Stop that!” I stood up as tall as I could and said in my most supercilious voice, “I don’t know which particular nigga the young lady is referring to, but whoever it is, would you please stop it.” The kids couldn’t believe their ears:

“Yo, miss! You can’t say that!”
“Why not? You say it all the time.”
“Uhh… Because you’re old.”
“That’s not why. Come on, tell the truth.”

This went on for a bit, until one brave lad piped up: “Because you’re white.” “Okay,” I said, “because I’m white. Well what if I said to you, ‘You’re not allowed to say some word because you’re black.’ Would that be okay?” They admitted that it wouldn’t. No one seemed to report it. To this day, it’s puzzling that I didn’t lose my job over that incident. I put it down to basic human decency.


8 posted on 02/10/2019 8:48:10 PM PST by GOPJ (We renew our resolve America will NEVER be a socialist country. We are born free we will STAY free!)
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Black culture is evil.


12 posted on 02/10/2019 9:01:50 PM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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Public Education’s Dirty Secret

It's communist indoctrination? It's child abuse? Are those secrets?

15 posted on 02/10/2019 9:08:38 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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My cousin was a NYC school teacher. Very rigid curriculum and everything was kept under lock and key. She worked in a school with lots of foreign kids, most of which wanted to learn, according to her. But the curriculum was disastrous and the kids did poorly on exams. Being a bit of a nerd, she still had her textbooks from when she was in that grade. Against policy, she started teaching them with the material she was taught with and the same methodologies. Improvement across the board.

Fast forward, my nephew isn’t but a few years removed from high school. While no rocket scientist or angel, he went to school, sat in class and tried to pay attention as much as any jock could. He said that of a 50 minute class, his teachers spent about 30+ minutes just trying to break up fights, get kids off their cell phones or stop talking. And God forbid the kids involved were black. There was whole different set of rules for them and it wasn’t uncommon for momma, in slippers and house coat, to show up at the school because her kid was disrespected and they were going to sue.

Far cry from when and where I went, with Marist Brothers that were allowed to beat the hell out of you.

On a side note, since becoming a homeowner and being forced to pay school taxes(over 50% of my tax bill), I ask myself....Why continue to try and educate those that do not want to be educated? Why do we continue to feed kids breakfast, lunch and sometimes a dinner when they don’t want to be there anyway? I’m sure 1 or 2 might “wake up” one day, but the rest will be just as delinquent, disruptive and criminal if they didn’t even attend. And it would save all us a lot of money.


16 posted on 02/10/2019 9:09:55 PM PST by qaz123
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An interesting article. I don’t know that there is a fix for these problems. These kids are the product of a completely failed world: schools, families, culture, everything. Their world has an absence of anything resembling civilization. A lot of them have adjusted to that failed world and will perpetuate it.


20 posted on 02/10/2019 9:34:30 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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Discipline has been gone for decades.

Students aren't expelled because the Federal matching dollars are withheld if their butt is not in the seat.

Also, the students with the worst discipline are those from broken homes and no discipline at home.

Of course, if the reality illustrates a racial disparity in the disruptors in the classroom, we can't have that inconvenient fact show up.

21 posted on 02/10/2019 9:39:22 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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I had a lot of the same experiences. It got to be nothing more than kabuki theater instead of teaching. Running in place, able to shout out the right acronyms of the moment, passing anyone who could fog up a mirror. All of the responsibility of students passing became the teacher's responsibility, not one iota from the students. If one had a shred of integrity, you could not be a part of this horrible travesty and live with yourself.
22 posted on 02/10/2019 9:48:41 PM PST by EinNYC
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the real reason schools suck these days is they don’t have public executions.

Make the kids watch 1-2/ year, with the back story being “you see that PIECE OF SH*T writhing and coughing his last breath?

HE WAS A LOSER POS IN SCHOOL, HORSING AROUND, SMACKING PEOPLE AND SELLING DRUGS.

REMIND YOU OF ANYONE YOU KNOW IN THIS CLASS?

You see that? STRAIGHTEN UP or thats YOUR ASS ON THAT TABLE NEXT YEAR!”


24 posted on 02/10/2019 9:54:08 PM PST by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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i had the same issues teaching high school science in oakland california.


25 posted on 02/10/2019 9:58:28 PM PST by SteveH
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“Why do precious few adults admit the truth out loud? Because in America the taboo against questioning the current orthodoxy on race is too strong and the price is too high.”

It is my firm conviction, and getting stronger everyday, that two groups of people who have significantly different AVERAGE IQ, and whose members can be easily identified as belonging to one or the other group, can never peacefully coexist together.

It may be sad and tragic, but it’s a reality.


30 posted on 02/10/2019 10:39:31 PM PST by aquila48
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An excellent set of examples of why, when I went into teaching, I worked for a private tutoring firm instead of the Public Schools. It paid less, a lot less, and provided no benefits, but we didn’t have to put up with shit like this.

I saw what the Public Schools were like when I did my student teaching/observing.


33 posted on 02/10/2019 11:18:52 PM PST by VietVet
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This was a good read. Worth the time. True.

Why do precious few adults admit the truth out loud? Because in America the taboo against questioning the current orthodoxy on race is too strong and the price is too high. What is failing our most vulnerable populations is the lack of political will to acknowledge and solve the real problems. The first step is to change the ”anti-discrimination” laws that breed anti-social behavior. Disruptive students must be removed from the classroom, not to punish them but to protect the majority of students who want to learn.

35 posted on 02/10/2019 11:30:25 PM PST by Yaelle
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disastrously inadequate public education received by America’s most vulnerable populations. This is a myth.


Yes, it is a myth. All the children are being shortchanged, not just ones who think learning is acting white.

The question was asked by a recent President of the US, “Is the children learning?” The question contains the answer.


39 posted on 02/11/2019 12:22:21 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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As a rule, I look to find the simplest answer to a problem. The “students” don’t want to be there and prevent others from learning. Fine, THROW THEM OUT. Enroll them in the school of hard knocks - a job, jail or death. The choice is theirs. And if parents complain, tell them to do a better job of raising their kid(s). Schools are NOT day care centers.

It’ll never happen, of course because we are stuck on stupid.


44 posted on 02/11/2019 2:26:33 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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No need to read a long and dull article to know the problem.

Compulsory public education has no place in a free society.

It's that simple.

51 posted on 02/11/2019 3:54:25 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("In the time of chimpanzees I was a monkey.")
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Denver Colorado teachers started striking today. Administrators and substitutes will fill in. Most schools are pretty bad here, so I doubt giving teachers a large raise will improve anything.


70 posted on 02/11/2019 6:48:42 AM PST by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all.)
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So, your children can’t read?

Maybe it’s because they’re stupid.


77 posted on 02/11/2019 9:42:27 AM PST by seowulf
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