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House votes in favor of illegal immigrant voting
www.washingtontimes.com ^ | 03/08/2019 | By Stephen Dinan

Posted on 03/08/2019 8:46:49 AM PST by Red Badger

House Democrats voted Friday to defend localities that allow illegal immigrants to vote in their elections, turning back a GOP attempt to discourage the practice.

The vote marks a stunning reversal from just six months ago, when the chamber — then under GOP control — voted to decry illegal immigrant voting.

“We are prepared to open up the political process and let all of the people come in,” Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat and hero of the civil rights movement, told colleagues as he led opposition to the GOP measure.

The 228-197 vote came as part of a broader debate on Democrats’ major legislative priority this year, HR 1, the “For the People Act,” which includes historic expansions of voter registration and access, as well as a major rewrite of campaign finance laws.

The measure would have had no practical effect even if it had passed. Illegal immigrants — and indeed noncitizens as a whole — are not legally able to participate in federal elections.

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To: Red Badger

This is the kind of nonsense you get when you elect democrats!


161 posted on 03/08/2019 4:19:13 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (I)
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To: grobdriver

If shouldn’t happen even locally!~


162 posted on 03/08/2019 4:45:50 PM PST by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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To: Red Badger

Well, at least now the Dems put their agenda in the open.


163 posted on 03/08/2019 5:49:37 PM PST by matt04
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

There is no old fashioned way, we are in new territory. Our government has actually deteriorated into an oligarchy. Google Page and Gilens from Princeton, study done in 2014.

The only solution is to repeal 16th and 17th Amendments and revoke the House Rule limiting the House to 435 seats.

16th Amendment turned us all into serfs, and the govt. uses our money against us to subjugate us. The 17th Amendment emasculated the states. And the House Rule diluted the votes of all citizens as the population grew.

All combined, it is a recipe for tyranny and it’s working.


164 posted on 03/08/2019 6:36:00 PM PST by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: rxsid
TAXES are for citizens


FEES are for non-citizens.


See how simple that was to fix!

165 posted on 03/08/2019 6:49:28 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JudyinCanada
...are the Republicans pouncing on this and pointing it out at every opportunity?

If they were; how would we find out about it?

166 posted on 03/08/2019 6:50:36 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Red Badger

Heard about this on NPR radio earlier today. They said The Turtle has already said he’ll prevent this from coming to a vote in the Senate.


167 posted on 03/08/2019 7:04:24 PM PST by upchuck (Home schooled kids are educated, not indoctrinated.)
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To: Red Badger

Since this has no chance of passing into law with the current senate or president, seems like this stick in the eye of real citizen voters may cost the Dems more than a few votes in 2020. The Dems have been out “stupid-ing” the GOP lately.


168 posted on 03/08/2019 9:00:57 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: JudyinCanada

Not if the let illegals vote in that. It’s just for Electors, after all, which is a local office./Wait for it. This will be their argument. Good thing there’s enough sane people in the Senate to stop this.


169 posted on 03/09/2019 10:22:41 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: JME_FAN

That was my initial assessment, but...what if we didn’t hold the Senate (which means at any time, we could be two years away from the end of the Republic as we know it.

And to be honest, I am no longer comforted by the “Republicans control the Senate” emollient. There are very few I trust, and almost all of them could vote for something at any time, and have shockingly done so. That coupled with their disinclination or reluctance to vigorously investigate and prosecute the Trump collusion hoax and associated surveillance abuses, the Clinton Email Scandal and any number of things that should be.

I continue to be shocked and discouraged by the kinds of things that would be a political death sentence to someone running for or holding an office a relatively short time ago are open and embraced now.

I don’t feel at all confident in the Senate to do anything right. I give them credit for getting judicial nominees moved through, but that is it.


170 posted on 03/09/2019 11:21:47 AM PST by rlmorel (If racial attacks were as common as the Left wants you to think, they wouldn't have to make them up.)
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To: morphing libertarian
After looking at these statistics below, seeing that they are CATCHING 50K a month for the last 4 years, rule of thumb is you only catch a small fraction of illegals (I estimate 25% just to make the math easier in conversation, but I would be astonished to find we are catching 34-40% over a 1,954 mile border) this would come out to two million a year disappearing into the country, and this is only four years or so.

In summary, I feel that there are far more than 20 million illegal immigrants in this country.

171 posted on 03/09/2019 11:27:28 AM PST by rlmorel (If racial attacks were as common as the Left wants you to think, they wouldn't have to make them up.)
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To: rlmorel; morphing libertarian
In summary, I feel that there are far more than 20 million illegal immigrants in this country.

And who is housing / clothing / feeding / employing these invaders?

172 posted on 03/09/2019 11:31:16 AM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Yeah. We know that. I read a “conservative estimate” total cost to our country of $50 billion a year, but I will bet after seeing those numbers released by the Customs/Border Patrol, it is closer to $200-$250 billion a year now.

It is sick.


173 posted on 03/09/2019 11:56:29 AM PST by rlmorel (If racial attacks were as common as the Left wants you to think, they wouldn't have to make them up.)
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To: Red Badger; All

The End of the Republic...


174 posted on 03/09/2019 6:20:54 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run
We are too, considered several states, but are planning to leave Oregon, regardless, without paying them any taxes on the way out. Everything we have saved, planned and acquired to live self sufficient is being infringed on.

We sold our house in Seattle 5 years after we moved to Oregon, it was a rental and subject to 40% tax, that was our "nest egg". The $250K profit was invested by way of a 1042 exchange into three properties in Oregon. A 10 unit apartment, a nine unit "slumlord" type place and 80 acres of raw land. All three now subject to state jurisdiction by way of state rent control just passed and signed and next up huge restrictions placed on timber land for "drinking watersheds" they can and want to lock up our acreage for harvest due to some random label by the ruling class.

Not to mention the fights we are having with gun restrictions. Bloomberg bought our Governor and most of the state Senate, it is getting very ugly out west.

175 posted on 03/10/2019 9:10:09 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: bgill

Here’s the fix for the problem - Terminate with extreme prejudice.


176 posted on 03/10/2019 10:48:00 AM PDT by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: arrogantsob

I never, on any post here or anywhere else on FR, ever argued that CWII would be a “civilized” fight (Whatever the fk that is). In fact, the exact opposite has always been my position - that a second civil war would make the first look like a boy scout jamboree: There would be mo mercy, no quarter, and no prisoners taken. The atrocities committed would be worse than your wildest nightmares, or anything done heretofore ... Because that is the intensity of the hatred, as it now exists.

If you think leftists will be defeated by intellect alone, you are living in fantasy - and nor have you any concept of world history. It ALWAYS, 100 percent of the time, in every case, comes down to bloodshed. And the longer it is put off, the worse will be the bloodshed and destruction.

I estimate we will lose, at minimum, 70 percent of the U.S. population - not only to the immediate consequences of combat, but mostly to the effects of starvation and disease - since most urban Americans (where the majority of the U.S. Population resides) possess not even rudimentary survival skills.


177 posted on 03/10/2019 11:04:17 AM PDT by JME_FAN (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: JudyinCanada; All

Not happening. Unlikely to be approved by Senate, and almost certain to get a Trump veto.


178 posted on 03/10/2019 10:08:13 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: 17th Miss Regt; All

I have heard some talk of allowing voting in municipal elections, not even state elections. And with possible residency requirements.


179 posted on 03/10/2019 10:10:29 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: DannyTN; arrogantsob; Red Badger; caww; DoughtyOne; cll; All

The right of citizens registered in Washington, DC has been abridged for many years because even though they pay full federal taxes, they have no Representative or Senators, even though the DC population is more than Vermont and Wyoming. Puerto Rican citizens are not affected as they do NOT pay federal taxes.


180 posted on 03/10/2019 10:19:41 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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