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Is Sex by Deception a Form of Rape?
New York Times ^ | April 23, 2019 | Abby Ellin

Posted on 04/24/2019 5:07:41 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Abigail Finney was in her freshman year at Purdue University in Indiana in February 2017 when she fell asleep in her boyfriend’s dorm room. During the night he snuggled up to her in bed in the pitch black, his hand grazing her breast, and they began having sex.

She soon stopped to go to the bathroom and, when she returned, discovered, to her horror, that it wasn’t her boyfriend who was in bed with her.

Was it rape?

Ms. Finney thought so and went to the police, who arrested Donald Grant Ward, the 19-year-old impostor. Mr. Ward, a friend of her boyfriend’s, admitted that he knew he was tricking Ms. Finney; he was charged with two counts of rape, which carries a sentence of three to 16 years.

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“Gender fraud” — when people misrepresent their birth gender to potential sexual mates — likewise remains a gray area. Sean O’Neill was convicted of gender fraud in Colorado in 1996, and five people have been convicted in the United Kingdom since 2012.

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In Iowa in April 2015, Michael Kelso-Christy, who was 23 at the time, created a fake Facebook account under the name of a man who had attended his high school. He messaged several women under this name, and one woman actually met him at her home, where she was waiting for him blindfolded, per his request. They had sex, and he left. Soon after, his Facebook account disappeared and he stopped messaging her. That’s when the woman realized he was an impostor, and called the police.

After an appeal by Mr. Kelso-Christy, Chief Justice Mark Cady ultimately ruled in the woman’s favor, noting that Mr. Kelso-Christy had denied her the “‘freedom of choice’ that breathes life into our sexual abuse statutes.” He was sentenced to 10 years

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: buriedthelede; consensualsex; deception; genderfraud; homofascism; homosexualagenda; informedconsent; metoo; mgtow; pua; rape; redpill; roughtrade; slutwalk
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It is wrong to take advantage of foolish women, but women acting more sensibly will prevent many cases of "sex by deception" than a law.

Will a "transgender" be prosecuted for getting a date under false pretenses?

1 posted on 04/24/2019 5:07:41 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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I’m not sure which way the law should go on this, but it should be a no-brainer for the school to condemn.


2 posted on 04/24/2019 5:09:31 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ( "It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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Is it false pretenses to willingly have sex and then cry “rape” afterward? That seems like sex by deception.


3 posted on 04/24/2019 5:11:12 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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Ask Bill Clinton.


4 posted on 04/24/2019 5:12:03 AM PDT by PGalt
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Men acting sensibly will eliminate all cases of rape.


5 posted on 04/24/2019 5:14:42 AM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: reaganaut1

Moslem men posing as Jewish men is very common in the Tel Aviv dating scene.


6 posted on 04/24/2019 5:16:28 AM PDT by golux
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Sorry....There's something about "touch" that comes into play here. Pretty sure she knew it was NOT her boyfriend.

But how would she tell her boyfriend...that she was sleeping with his best friend?

I think this whole story is made up.

7 posted on 04/24/2019 5:18:15 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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"Oops, I had sex with the wrong person".

How often has this happened to you?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
8 posted on 04/24/2019 5:19:11 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Was it rape?
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Yes, but it wasn't rape rape.

9 posted on 04/24/2019 5:20:34 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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https://www.jconline.com/story/news/local/indiana/2018/02/23/sexual-assault-victim-stepping-up-change-indianas-rape-law/366896002/


10 posted on 04/24/2019 5:22:37 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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If so, transgenders who don’t clearly inform their partners ahead of time are rapists. Bring this up and watch them drop it in a hot minute or work out some BS exception.


11 posted on 04/24/2019 5:23:52 AM PDT by jarwulf
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She's bitter about a lot of things, I think.

12 posted on 04/24/2019 5:24:03 AM PDT by simpson96
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I suspect alcohol had something to do with it.


13 posted on 04/24/2019 5:27:02 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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The Coed that had sex with whoever was in her bed had no call to charge rape.

She wasn’t drunk or passed out, and the rooms have locks. A teenaged boy is going to have sex with any girl that allows it.


14 posted on 04/24/2019 5:27:31 AM PDT by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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Will a “transgender” be prosecuted for getting a date under false pretenses?


This is happening. Trans are posting on dating sites as the opposite sex, using filtered and selective pictures.


15 posted on 04/24/2019 5:27:45 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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There is a fellow with a lucrative web site who advertises for women to audition for work in the porn industry. He makes it clear early on that there will be no payments made for auditions. He tells the women that porn producers will view the audition ‘tape,’ and could hire the women for from a thousand to five thousand dollars a day.

He’s had no shortage of applicants over the years. He posts videos of the sex sessions on his website and charges for downloads. The thing is, the videos don’t go to producers and he cannot provide any of them with a job. It’s just a ruse to have sex with multitudes of comely lasses and college co-eds who wait forever to be notified that a producer is interested in them.

Is that rape?


16 posted on 04/24/2019 5:29:49 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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I have wondered what the rules are concerning mentally ill men who think they are women and who have had their bodies adjusted accordingly. Are these faux women required to reveal this to potential dates/boyfriends?

Somehow I can’t imagine a man’s reaction on finding out such a detail after intimacy. I dare say it could go very poorly.


17 posted on 04/24/2019 5:31:33 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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When the girl at the bar with the fake boobs gets picked up by the guy with the rake rolex, I say they are meant for each other.


18 posted on 04/24/2019 5:32:33 AM PDT by z3n
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I know many men who had sex with women that said they weren’t crazy bitches. Were they raped?


19 posted on 04/24/2019 5:36:57 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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Yeah I don’t believe her either.


20 posted on 04/24/2019 5:37:40 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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