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Mueller's Sinking Reputation
Real Clear Politics ^ | June 5, 2019 | Charles Lipson

Posted on 06/06/2019 10:01:28 AM PDT by billorites

Now that Robert Mueller has closed up shop as special counsel and shot off fireworks at his final press conference, the country can step back and assess the job he did. The results are decidedly mixed.

Mueller made two vital contributions. The first was an in-depth investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election. He concluded it was systematic and favored Donald Trump. The second was an intensive examination of possible coordination between the Russians and the Trump campaign. He concluded that no charges were warranted against any Americans.

The country needed those investigations and Mueller deserves praise for conducting them. More ambiguous was his non-finding of obstruction against the president, which, predictably, has been subject to deep partisan divisions.

Mueller’s two-volume report leaves several big, unanswered questions, though Democrats and Republicans differ on what they are. Democrats, focusing on the second volume, firmly believe Trump interfered with Mueller’s probe. All want further investigations; some want impeachment. Since the Senate is unlikely to convict — the evidence is too thin to win a two-thirds majority — the Democrats’ practical goal is to damage Trump’s chances in 2020. Their political problem, well understood by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is that a doomed effort will hurt the Democrats even more.

Republicans reject the obstruction claims, noting that Trump provided millions of documents and gave Mueller unprecedented access to White House staff. Even if Mueller believed he could not indict a sitting president, he could have said the evidence justified it. He made no such statement, though he did list some instances that might be considered obstruction.

Republicans add three more serious charges against Mueller. First, his team was packed with partisan Democrats, many closely affiliated with Hillary Clinton and strongly biased against Trump. Second, the report itself was shoddy and unfair...

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: declassification; fbi; fisa; impeachment; jamescomey; lisapage; muellercorrupt; muellerpresser; peterstrzok; robertmueller
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1 posted on 06/06/2019 10:01:28 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

Russia spent around $70k in online activities and this was a systematic interference in the 2016 election according to Mueller?

Does Mueller not remember that Russia was also said to have interfered in the 2014 election?


2 posted on 06/06/2019 10:04:37 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: billorites

Mueller tampered with evidence as proven by the doctored phone recordings between Flynn and Trump’s lawyer.


3 posted on 06/06/2019 10:05:42 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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To: billorites

The deep state Mueller, brought out of retirement for a kamikaze attack on the USS Trump, has missed his target and crashed. He is done.

Now is the time to steadily release information on his, and his team’s overt bias. A steady drip, drip, drip over the next 18 months will turn him into a pariah.


4 posted on 06/06/2019 10:06:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Mueller also said that his report does not exonerate Trump, something that no one in his position had ever done or said before, the equivalent to a judge or jury spokesperson saying they couldn’t find the defendant guilty but don’t know if he is still truly innocent.


5 posted on 06/06/2019 10:06:41 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: billorites

Couldn’t stand him in 2001 and he’s done nothing to help his rep since.


6 posted on 06/06/2019 10:06:46 AM PDT by bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)
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To: Its All Over Except ...
"Russia spent around $70k in online activities and this was a systematic interference in the 2016 election according to Mueller?"

and of that $70K between 40 an 50% was for pro-Hillary or anti-Trump ads.

7 posted on 06/06/2019 10:07:27 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: billorites

The author engages in typical DC BS. I have yet to hear of any actual proof that THE RUSSIANS! interfered at all for President Trump. Mueller’s reputation really could not sink much from the Whitey Bulger and Hatfill days. Mueller remains weapons grade scum.


8 posted on 06/06/2019 10:13:25 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Its All Over Except ...

“Mueller also said that his report does not exonerate Trump, something that no one in his position had ever done or said before, the equivalent to a judge or jury spokesperson saying they couldn’t find the defendant guilty but don’t know if he is still truly innocent.”

‘Not Exonerated’ Is Not a Standard Any Free Country Should Accept!
By CHARLES C. W. COOKE
May 29, 2019 11:52 AM

‘Special Counsel Robert Mueller departs after delivering a statement on his investigation at the Justice Department in Washington, D.C., May 29, 2019.’

I’m sorry to be a broken record on this, but this line from Robert Mueller infuriates me:

“If we had had confidence that the president had clearly not committed a crime we would have said so.” Mueller

— David M. Drucker (@DavidMDrucker) May 29, 2019

That’s not how it works in America. Investigators are supposed to look for evidence that a crime was committed, and, if they don’t find enough to contend that a crime was a committed, they are supposed to say “We didn’t find enough to contend that a crime was committed.” They are not supposed to look for evidence that a crime was not committed and then say, “We couldn’t find evidence of innocence.”

I understand that Mueller was in an odd position. I understand, too, that this wasn’t a criminal trial. But I don’t think those norms are rendered any less important by those facts. By asking the executive to investigate itself, it was guaranteed — yes, guaranteed — that we’d have a fight over “obstruction of justice.” For the architect of that investigation to keep saying “We aren’t exonerating our target” is extraordinary. Innocence is the default position in this country. If a person doesn’t have enough evidence that someone committed a crime to contend that a crime was committed, he is obliged to presume his innocence. “Not exonerated” is not a standard in our system, and it shouldn’t be one in our culture, either.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/not-exonerated-is-not-a-standard-any-free-country-should-accept/ ^

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3754105/posts


9 posted on 06/06/2019 10:14:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Frau Mueller? "What do the Clintons, Obama and their Spygate CIA/FBI/DOJ thugs have on you???????")
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The entire charade was about hamstringing the Trump Administration and delaying progress on the MAGA agenda, to try and make Trump a failed president...and if they got lucky and Trump stumbled, they’d get him out of office.

It was obstruction of government. Running out the clock till at worst they could get a do-over with even greater levels of fraud from illegal voting.

They’ll try something like it once again if Trump beats them in 2020. The Deep State, The Democrat Party and the Establishment GOP - 90 percent of Washington D.C. - is the enemy of the American nation and American people.

The irony is if the Muslims or some other terrorist org managed to dirty bomb or nuke D.C. they might actually end up saving America.


10 posted on 06/06/2019 10:15:34 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you...)
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To: Grampa Dave

Excecllent read. Thanks for providing it!

Mueller’s “reasoning” and the Dems playbook follows this standard:

The seriousness of the allegations against Trump requires unending investigations on Trump...


11 posted on 06/06/2019 10:19:11 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: circlecity
He concluded it was systematic and favored Donald Trump.

The two biggest issues, and he's wrong on both. Less than 0.01% of the amount Hillary spent might be 'systematic' in that it was deliberate and targeted, but it had no significant effect so it's trivial.

More than that, I have never seen anyone with any logical reason that the Russians would favor Trump. Not then. Not now. If they interfered in any way they thought would matter, it would certainly have been in Hillary's favor.

If there was 'collusion' (and there wasn't, at least, not with the Trump campaign), whether it could be proven or not, where is the evidence or Russian bias toward Trump? That should be so obvious that the only question would be whether Trump knew about it. But there is no evidence it even happened - let alone that Trump was involved.

Yet it is taken as gospel by the Dims, because the alternative is that they lost fair and square, and that would require them to admit their ideas are not popular.

They're not popular - at least with the majority of American citizens - but to admit it would be the end of their party.
12 posted on 06/06/2019 10:20:56 AM PDT by Phlyer
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To: fortheDeclaration

Where did he learn to do that?


13 posted on 06/06/2019 10:21:31 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: circlecity

$70k? that’s it? geez, United States elections are going for pretty cheap these days. $70,000...


14 posted on 06/06/2019 10:23:14 AM PDT by SGCOS
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
“The irony is if the Muslims or some other terrorist org managed to dirty bomb or nuke D.C. they might actually end up saving America.”

It is not just irony, it is logically thought out. I said recently, if it looks like war was coming immediately, I would head to DC where I would be safest because no adversary would take out its 5th column.

15 posted on 06/06/2019 10:23:40 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: Phlyer

Didn’t Mueller also conclude that the Russians hacked the DNC server despite the fact that Nobody from the Justice Dept or FBI ever even examined the server?


16 posted on 06/06/2019 10:25:37 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Russia and the USA have interfered in elections all around the world including into each other’s. The Americans put a lot more money into the business of electioneering in foreign lands than anyone else does and all advanced countries do it to each other and to the non advanced countries. We knew it was happening and probably the complete extent of it before Mueller cried, “AHA!


17 posted on 06/06/2019 10:26:04 AM PDT by arthurus (Sus---kind)
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To: billorites

There never was ANY investigation. Mueller was part of the coup from the beginning.


18 posted on 06/06/2019 10:27:53 AM PDT by CMailBag
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No matter how you cut it Mueller's a weasel.
19 posted on 06/06/2019 10:28:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats donÂ’t want to fix the Court, they want to break America - Daniel Greenfield)
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Speculation:
The ambiguity of Mueller’s conclusions were intentional to leave room for the Demos to further humiliate themselves and to keep them busy making more and increasingly stupid statements and taking stupid actions. They have a real talent for that.
The results of the conclusions keep the MSM busy screaming into the the void, stupid fake news that obviously is fake. A cover for what is actually happening in terms of justice.
Just my .02


20 posted on 06/06/2019 10:28:51 AM PDT by buffaloguy (MSM: Wind up dolls of the DNC.)
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