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Putting the Brakes on CAFE Standards Will Drive Down Car Costs
Townhall.com ^ | June 18, 2019 | Ross Marchand

Posted on 06/18/2019 6:18:19 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin
Instead of driving car prices higher, policymakers should put the brakes on disastrous regulations bilking American consumers.

Trump's best pick, EPA administrator Scott Pruitt was well on his way towards accomplishing this. And then he was basically fired.

21 posted on 06/18/2019 7:03:09 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: PGR88

“I am quite sure engineers could easily build and market a comfortable car that would last 400,000 miles and cost under $10,000.”

For city driving UTV’s should be legal, they will get 35+ MPG and are less than 10K.


22 posted on 06/18/2019 7:17:01 AM PDT by Beagle8U (It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you place the blame.)
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To: Kaslin

I thought this already happened?


23 posted on 06/18/2019 7:20:12 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

Government...increase MPG and decrease power of gasoline by adding ethanol.

Increase mileage by law.

decrease mileage by law.


24 posted on 06/18/2019 7:22:45 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: HamiltonJay
To get a 50% increase you have to decrease weight, its the only viable way.

Leftists can't say it but weight is not what concerns them, it's size envy. They want your car 50% visibly smaller than theirs. Increasing MPG is just the socially acceptable cover story, and why a cost/benefit analysis isn't a factor.

25 posted on 06/18/2019 7:37:33 AM PDT by Reeses (A journey of a thousand miles begins with a government pat down.)
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To: G Larry
37 is reasonable, 54 is insane.

37 is unreasonable. 25 mpg is reasonable.

26 posted on 06/18/2019 8:34:51 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: HamiltonJay
so you definitely get more for your money.. (this is true across all autos honestly)

I don't think that having a tire pressure indicator, that when it failed cost me $400 to fix, offers me any value. In fact it cost me the $400 to fix and the hundreds to install and equip in the new vehicle. Honestly, there are dozens of examples of this. Cars are commoddoties and if not for the insane regulations (and union wages in some states) one could easily offer a base BMW for $25,000 and a Jeep Wrangler for $20,000 or less.

27 posted on 06/18/2019 8:40:47 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Kaslin

The Bureaucratic State in action.


28 posted on 06/18/2019 8:45:35 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: gibsonguy

[[[Do you think anyone actually wants a car that shuts it’s f’n engine off at every f’n traffic light?]]]

I’m hearing more and more of these vehicles on the road. How utterly ridiculous. It would drive me crazy.


29 posted on 06/18/2019 8:48:02 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Beagle8U

Check out Mahindra Roxor, not under $10K but something like you are talking about.


30 posted on 06/18/2019 8:56:25 AM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: sheana

I just got a new F150 as a company car. It has the shut off. First time my wife noticed it, she went off on the stupid tree huggers.

I try not to let it auto shut off. Near my house, I have to make a U-turn in an intersection. The delay to start the truck is actually dangerous.


31 posted on 06/18/2019 9:08:23 AM PDT by cyclotic
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I have a 2016 Mercedes E350. It has an eco button that won’t turn off. You punch it to turn it off and the next time you look it’s lit green again. Not real sure what it does but it doesn’t power down and then back up. I hated that rental.


32 posted on 06/18/2019 9:17:45 AM PDT by sheana
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To: gibsonguy

Not sure if it had a button or not. It was a rental so I didn’t spend too much time punching buttons. As long as it went, stopped, and the ac worked I was happy. lol


33 posted on 06/18/2019 9:20:04 AM PDT by sheana
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To: G Larry

Neither is “reasonable”.

Politicians are not Automotive Engineers and none of them would be driven around in a Government Vehicle that gets 55 MPG.

Just another way to control the Population.


34 posted on 06/18/2019 9:21:25 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: nomorelurker

The ROXOR is not street legal. It costs 16K barebones.


35 posted on 06/18/2019 9:24:30 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: 1Old Pro

No one regulated that pressure gauge you are complaining about, and no one forced you to buy a car that had one... blaming regulation for things that have nothing to do with regulation is silly and wrong.

I showed you the numbers, you choose to ignore them, thats on you.

Cars today are on par adjusted to inflation to what they were in 1970, and offer a lot more features, some mandated others driven by the market.

Could someone build an absolute base model yugo cheap? Sure... but no one would buy them.. so they don’t make them.


36 posted on 06/18/2019 9:31:12 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: sheana

Sounds like a faulty switch...

Generally ECO buttons just lessen acceleration so your fuel consumption curve is reduced.


37 posted on 06/18/2019 9:32:30 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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No one regulated that pressure gauge you are complaining about

How about a backup camera? Perhaps a qute from the Heritage foundation: Evidence continues to mount that strict fuel economy standards are making cars and trucks more expensive than they would be otherwise. Up through 2008, new vehicle prices—adjusted for quality and the composition of the fleet—had declined steadily for decades. Since then, however, prices have stopped falling and are growing at almost the same rate as general inflation. Given that the average new vehicle costs $33,661,[1 Kelley Blue Book put the average October 2016 new car sale at $34,663; National Income and Product Accounts data imply an average October 2016 price of $32,659. I average the two. Press release, “New-Car Transaction Prices Increase More Than 2 Percent Year-Over-Year in October 2016, According To Kelley Blue Book,” Kelly Blue Book, November 1, 2016, http://mediaroom.kbb.com/2016-11-01-New-Car-Transaction-Prices-Increase-More-Than-2-Percent-Year-Over-Year-In-October-2016-According-To-Kelley-Blue-Book (accessed November 30, 2016), and U.S. Department of Commerce, Bureau of Economic Analysis, National Income and Product Accounts, Table 7.2.5S, 2002 to 2016, http://www.bea.gov/iTable/index_nipa.cfm (accessed November 30, 2016).  ] the price of a typical vehicle is $7,698 higher than if the pre-recession relative price trend had continued.

38 posted on 06/18/2019 9:38:19 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

again, a back up camera is NOT a required feature. No government regulation requires them, and you can buy vehicles without them.

You keep trying to blame regulation by citing things the market is asking for not things being demanded by government.

I’ve shown you the real numbers, cars today adjusted for inflation are on par with what they were in the 1970s and certainly have far far more features and functions in them than they did back then.

Does regulation add cost? Sure, but blaming regulation as the main driver is stupid and wrong.


39 posted on 06/18/2019 9:42:07 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

OK...

Backup cameras now required in new cars in the US. ... A federal regulation took full effect Wednesday requiring the rearview cameras and video displays on new models. Safety advocates say the cameras will help prevent accidents in which pedestrians — often children — are run over because a driver can’t see them.May 2, 2018


40 posted on 06/18/2019 9:45:58 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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