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Putting the Brakes on CAFE Standards Will Drive Down Car Costs
Townhall.com ^ | June 18, 2019 | Ross Marchand

Posted on 06/18/2019 6:18:19 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/18/2019 6:18:19 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Absolutely agree!

37 is reasonable, 54 is insane.

2 posted on 06/18/2019 6:27:08 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Kaslin

Trump rocks! These anti-car regs have been handcuffing the auto industry for decades. Forcing people to buy cars they don’t want.


3 posted on 06/18/2019 6:27:50 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Kaslin

My wife worked at GM and in one of the buildings she worked there was an entire floor dedicated to CAFE compliance. A huge space with many people. Cars used to built with style, comfort and performance as the main goals. Those 3 are secondary to “how do we build are car that meets government mandates that people can afford?”
Exhibit A: Do you think anyone actually wants a car that shuts it’s f’n engine off at every f’n traffic light?


4 posted on 06/18/2019 6:28:08 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Kaslin

The green commie goal is to make cars unaffordable so folks don’t have them. Planet saved.


5 posted on 06/18/2019 6:28:34 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: G Larry

There is absolutely no reason car prices should be going up, they should be going down like televisions.


6 posted on 06/18/2019 6:29:55 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Kaslin

The car companies love CAFE. It forces too much technology into the car which turns un-reliable in the long run. Planned obsolescence is the name of the game.

A perfect example, auto start/stop. Wears your starter out in 3 or 4 years instead of 10-12. Not to mention engine starting does 10 times more damage because their is no oil pressure. You should only turn your engine off if you are going to be sitting for over 3-4 minutes or more, preferably more.


7 posted on 06/18/2019 6:30:16 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: G Larry
My last 3 cars averaged 20 mpg (going back to 1984) and my next car will get about 20 mpg.

Performance and Reliability are my priorities.

8 posted on 06/18/2019 6:30:54 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Kaslin

They’ll find another way to jack up the prices.


9 posted on 06/18/2019 6:34:32 AM PDT by bgill
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To: 1Old Pro

My next car (2019 Honda Passport) will cost less than my last car (2007 Acura MDX).


10 posted on 06/18/2019 6:36:05 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: gibsonguy
Those 3 are secondary to “how do we build are car that meets government mandates that people can afford?”

If cars could simply be built for value - I am quite sure engineers could easily build and market a comfortable car that would last 400,000 miles and cost under $10,000

11 posted on 06/18/2019 6:37:10 AM PDT by PGR88
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I finally broke down and bought my car an almost new car, and had to hunt very hard to find a normal car that had a V-6 and did not have CVT.

These Turbo 4s that are being put in everything are going to have to work a lot harder for the same output, and when the Turbo goes, repairs are expensive. I normally drive 20 year old cars, so I expect our Toyota Avalon will last at least 20 years without needing a drivetrain overhaul. CVTs WON’T last that long, and I doubt the Turbo 4s will, either.


12 posted on 06/18/2019 6:39:24 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana
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To: G Larry

54 is only viable with carbon fibre or other lightweight manufacturing that is not currently viable cost wise.

To get a 50% increase you have to decrease weight, its the only viable way.


13 posted on 06/18/2019 6:39:46 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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These stupid regulations should have been completely obliterated on day one of the Trump administration - not cautiously slowed in year three.

There is a good and simple rule to follow. If Obama did it, it is wrong and should be eliminated. Just follow that rule and you will be correct 99% of the time. That’s certainly the case here.


14 posted on 06/18/2019 6:43:10 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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I just had a rental that did that. Irritated the F out of me. You could feel it power down and then had to wait for it to power up when you pushed the gas to go after a red light. Sometimes I’d get a jerk out of it because I’d punch the gas and then there was a delay so it got the gas all at once. I hated it.


15 posted on 06/18/2019 6:43:57 AM PDT by sheana
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To: bgill

They always do.


16 posted on 06/18/2019 6:44:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: PGR88

Secondary does not mean irrelevant.


17 posted on 06/18/2019 6:44:16 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: PGR88
If cars could simply be built for value - I am quite sure engineers could easily build and market a comfortable car that would last 400,000 miles and cost under $10,000


Tata sacrificed features, safety and speed and sells the Tata Nano .6 diesel in India for under $3,000. You can bet those engines are dirtier than the ones we forced VW to destroy.
18 posted on 06/18/2019 6:46:04 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana
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“Irritated the F out of me.“

Most cars have a button to disable it. But you have to push the button
EVERY TIME YOU START YOUR CAR. Now they’re starting to remove the button.


19 posted on 06/18/2019 6:49:10 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: 1Old Pro

Sorry, but ever more regulation and requirements as well as consumer demand make that a pipe dream.

You get a lot more for your money than you used to.

One of the cheapest cars in 1970 was the VW Beetle, its base MSRP was $1,839... Adjusted for inflation that’s $12,137.97 in todays dollars

The Nissan Versa is at 13,255 is the cheapest care available in the US today... and no one would argue that the Nissan Versa offers far more value for the money than the base VW Bug, so you definitely get more for your money.. (this is true across all autos honestly)

So, true cost is declining, but you are getting so much more for the money that the overall cost is not going to drop anytime soon. I have no doubt if cars came in an absolute base model anymore.. you could get cheaper, but no one buys them so they don’t make them.


20 posted on 06/18/2019 6:56:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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