Trump’s Trade War With China Is Already Changing the World

The Atlantic ^ | Jun 25, 2019 | Michael Schuman

[Zhang Fei]

Production is moving to countries that do not have nukes aimed at American cities.

[EagleUSA]

The pressure on COMMUNISM is great. The beauty of capitalism and freedom.

[Sam Gamgee]

I still am astonished that only a few ever analyse China as a hostile nation. I guess so much is invested that everyone, from Democrats to Republicans, have too much to lose. But they are quick to condemn Russia, a nation 1/10th size of China, that really is not screwing the US over economically.

I say this as a Canadian, who liberal party is the and always has been the hand maiden of the ChiComs. But it seems little better in the US>

[SunkenCiv]

Foxconn Tells Apple To Leave China

[vette6387]

“But they are quick to condemn Russia, a nation 1/10th size of China, that really is not screwing the US over economically.”

Russia would screw us over economically if it could, but the cold hard fact of the matter is that Russia has a minuscule economy. Many much smaller countries have economies that are larger that Russia's. Sometimes I think that producing new weapons of war is about the only thing that keeps Russia from a financial collapse. Russia is belicose $hit hole of a country.

[central_va]

Libertarians have infected this web site as well the GOPe in general. they have no allegiance to any nation or creed except GREED. The will trade with the devil so shave 2 cents on the dollar.

[Vigilanteman]

Not much noise about China wanting Taiwan back lately either. They know it is their goose which lays the golden egg. If the Chicoms were smart, they would:

1. Adopt the flag of Taiwan (originally designed by Dr. Sun Yat Sen, if memory serves me correctly).
   
2. Organize a Chinese Commonwealth based on the old British Commonwealth of Nations model.
   
3. Encourage each region to develop more autonomy, especially Shanghai.
   
4. Unilaterally announce that Hong Kong was going to be given a choice between voting for independence or another 100 years of the one nation/two systems promise they were give.
   
5. Then, finally, they would invite places like Singapore and Taiwan to join. Maybe even places like Malaysia, where ethnic Chinese are a minority but still run the economy.

[Vigilanteman]

Somewhere out on the web is a chart matching various countries economy sizes to the economy of our various states. If memory serves me correctly, I think Russia has an economy about the size of Michigan.

[rintintin]

“The pressure on COMMUNISM is great. The beauty of capitalism and freedom.”

The point of MAGA was to bring manufacturing jobs home to America.
Why am I supposed to applaud the shifting of jobs from China to Hungary?

[max americana]

Do tell. I’ve seen all types of Freepers to fag homo supporter and lovers (even the regular long-time Freepers) to NEVER TRUMPERS (they mostly come out with daggers at every border wall thread)

[rintintin]

So US-based companies are shifting manufacturing jobs from China to other non-US countries. How does that make US manufacturing great again?

[granada]

Democrats and Republicans have been determined to make China great again.

[rintintin]

When are these manufacturing jobs going to be shifted back to the US? Shifting them from China to Vietnam or Hungary doesn’t excite me very much. It doesn’t open new factories in those rust belt states that voted for Trump

[Vigilanteman]

A recent one by the American Enterprise Institute

[grey_whiskers]

Less intellectual property theft.
And presumably some of the manufacturing will be re-onshored.

[Destroyer Sailor]

This Atlantic article only tells some of the story. As most leftist media does these days it tells only what it wants to and uses the rest of the story to attack President Trump. In reality like many things Trump has seen the changes in the world manufacturing supply chains and used it to an advantage. China had become to costly and manufacturers were looking to move on to less costly locations to set up shop in. China feels the pain as its people end up out of work. As the Hong Kong protests show all is not well in China.

[Zhang Fei]

[But they are quick to condemn Russia, a nation 1/10th size of China, that really is not screwing the US over economically.]

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The Russians basically started WWII by allying with the Nazis. They were gearing up to stab the Nazis in the back when the Nazis struck first with Operation Barbarossa. They also killed 100K Americans by proxy during the Cold War, by training, supplying, feeding and funding North Korea and North Vietnam. Putin isn’t sending nuclear bombers right up to Alaska’s air space because Russia is a friendly power. Russia is almost the size of Canada and the US combined. To say that it needs more space is ludicrous. And yet the Russians have annexed parts of Georgia and Ukraine in the past decade.

The Cold War was an aberration, a time when countries lined up into two broad coalitions. In normal times, you can have more than one enemy. This is one of those times.

[max americana]

One issue at a time and baby steps. Taking money away from China was the first step. They are the enemy. Let’s keep doing that first and bringing back jobs to America will come next..

[Vigilanteman]

Using the most generous calculation using purchase power parity (PPP), which is also the more realistic, then Russia has an economy the size of California, Nevada, Utah and Arizona combined. If you compare just nominal GDP in $ terms, then it is smaller than, but most comparable to, New York.

[rintintin]

“ bringing back jobs to America will come next..”

Trump talked about bringing factories back to Ohio and Pennsylvania. Freepers are cheering when the factories are going to Thailand instead. That ain’t going to get him a lot of votes from the Rust Belt