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THIS IS AN IMMEDIATE ACTION ALERT

DON'T LET RAND DO THIS!

CALL HIS OFFICE NOW:

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1 posted on 08/13/2019 11:32:24 AM PDT by RandFan
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lindsay Graham does too- claims the 2n’d amendment isn’t a ‘suicide pact’ whatever the hell that is supposed to mean

Look Rinos in government- the left do not even respect the constitution, and you think they will respect ‘strong protections for due process’ once the red flag laws get passed thanks to gullible dorks like you all?


2 posted on 08/13/2019 11:35:29 AM PDT by Bob434
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Have conservatives and libertarians as short sighted as that? really?


3 posted on 08/13/2019 11:35:49 AM PDT by arthurus (sfgx v x..!-=_+)
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He, of all people, should know that if people are “sending off signals@ then that’s legally “conspiracy to commit” and people can be arrested on that basis via due process.

And the red flags wouldn’t have stopped him from being attacked either because his attackers family backed him up.


4 posted on 08/13/2019 11:35:51 AM PDT by Skywise
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I’d like to see no Red Flag law.

But if they do impose a 48-hr rule (or whatever) and the targeted person gets their day in court, with full due process, and is found harmless and competent to own a gun, then I would like the original instigator of the “emergency” to be fined $50,000 directly payable to the victimized gun owner. Seems only fair.


7 posted on 08/13/2019 11:37:38 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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FIRST - There will be NO FEDERAL Red-Flag bill!!!

SECOND - No matter what the bill at the National level says about "Due Process", when it is implemented at the State Level, THERE WILL BE NO DUE PROCESS!!!!

THIRD - NO CONFISCATED WEAPON WILL EVER BE RETURNED!!!

8 posted on 08/13/2019 11:39:02 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Almost every state in the union has in place a law for judicial commitment, akin to Florida’s Baker Act.

We need nut control, not more gun control.


9 posted on 08/13/2019 11:39:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds)
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I actually think the “red flag” concept, if done right, is a solution that could actually work to avoid these sorts of things. Of course, it would have to include safeguards that:
1. Apply stiff penalties to anyone who tries to frivolously red flag someone.
2. Still put the burden of proof on those supporting the removal of guns from the person flagged.
3. As Rand said, it is only temporary until the person gets their “day in court” to make it permanent or long term.

One of the strengths of this concept is that it is not a blanket law. It only affects individuals that allegedly cross a line.


10 posted on 08/13/2019 11:39:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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A big problem with this is they will start looking for so-called red flags.


11 posted on 08/13/2019 11:39:42 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Sending a signal like a post on Facebook.

Use the word “Christian”, get banned and swatted.


16 posted on 08/13/2019 11:42:09 AM PDT by fruser1
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If Rand likes it you know there’s kickback money.


19 posted on 08/13/2019 11:44:35 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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This is a true precrime bill if there ever was one. We think you are about to commit a crime therefore we find you guilty and remove your weapons.

No due process
No crime
No way


23 posted on 08/13/2019 11:46:05 AM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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They have to get votes (we don’t), and something like 89% of the country wants the Red Flag Laws...so they’re coming, unless our side can make a credible case that some other option will work just as effectively.

Maybe it’s out there, but I haven’t seen that proposed yet, and I’d rather have Paul and Trump involved in writing those laws than an all-Democrat super-majority writing them in 2021...because they will get written, by one side or the other.

Sorry but I’m just being a realist here - public opinion is simply not on the side of effectively doing nothing (which is how opposition to these laws are presently viewed). Unless we change that...we’re going to lose on this issue, one way or another - particularly when the next shooting happens, and then the ones after that.


25 posted on 08/13/2019 11:48:00 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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I’m actually with Rand on this one - from a philosophical position. And I live in Kentucky.

But as I’ve said, it would need a LOT of safeguards to prevent abuse of it.


26 posted on 08/13/2019 11:48:24 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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No government program has ever worked as advertised. This program would morph into a gun confiscation program just as sure as we are here on free republic. DO NOT let this happen!!!!!!!


27 posted on 08/13/2019 11:49:02 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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A dream of mine is that we gather our guns and buy some rope to test some branches in D.C. should these ninnies keep threatening our rights.

They’re OUR rights, their job, take care of things outside our abilities.

If they can’t uphold their oaths to the constitution, they all need to resign.


28 posted on 08/13/2019 11:51:04 AM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood (Fox Shadowbans People On Comments)
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Rand claims to be a constitutionalist, yet, he always comes out as the anti-American liberal.


30 posted on 08/13/2019 11:52:04 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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Any if this sht passes I am DONE with these lying bastards.


35 posted on 08/13/2019 11:53:15 AM PDT by Renegade
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There are already laws on the books that can require a person to undergo psychiatric evaluation. We don’t need these violations of civil rights known as Red Flag laws.

They are pre-crimes: A person hasn’t committed a crime but we think they might, so take their guns.

Red Flag laws are intended to be outside the constitution and deprive people their rights without a trial.

Colorado has a Red Flag law: The accused is never allowed representation in court. An anonymous person can file a report, the police take it to the court, the court agrees, and a SWAT team is sent to take the person’s guns.


38 posted on 08/13/2019 11:55:37 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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Most states already HAVE this sort of thing in place.

I know a lady whose husband was involuntarily committed after threatening to harm himself.

As a result he lost his job in a gun factory as after that he was not permitted to have them or be around them.

He did have due process. In the end the courts decided to retain his ban.


42 posted on 08/13/2019 11:57:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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GUN CONTROL LAWS KILL GOOD PEOPLE

Rand Paul Communist should repeal all the Anti Second Amendment laws so that good people can defend themselves.

Rand Paul virtue signaller, Mr feel good but screw good Americans, should be voted out.

Rand Paul should resign in disgrace.

Because Gun Control Laws Kill good people.


44 posted on 08/13/2019 11:57:56 AM PDT by TheNext (Diversity: Darker Replaces Lighter)
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