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Drejka found guilty of manslaughter in . . .shooting that led to 'Stand Your Ground' trial (trunc)
CNN via MSN ^ | Aug. 23, 2019 | John Couwels, Ray Sanchez, & Eric Lwevenson

Posted on 08/23/2019 8:49:31 PM PDT by libstripper

Full title of article:

"Michael Drejka found guilty of manslaughter in parking lot shooting that led to 'Stand Your Ground' trial"

Text of excerpt:

Michael Drejka, who fatally shot an unarmed man, Markeis McGlockton, last summer in Florida during a dispute over a handicapped-accessible parking spot, was found guilty of manslaughter Friday night.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drejka; fl; manslaughter; syg
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To: Tired of Taxes

Or, Drejka could mind his business.


41 posted on 08/24/2019 4:58:27 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: ronniesgal

Imagine that, minding your own business...


42 posted on 08/24/2019 4:59:22 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: libstripper

This is now a Stalin-like scenario for white people in America - like the Russian soldiers who would be shot for retreating (dead either way).

If you are white and you defend yourself against a black person assaulting, you may face a sham trial and life imprisonment or death penalty; if you don’t defend yourself, again, you face the possibility of being killed, so either way you lose.


43 posted on 08/24/2019 5:02:12 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: libstripper

This man is a COWARD AND A MURDERER, pure and simple.

Should be swinging from a tree.


44 posted on 08/24/2019 5:06:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: ronniesgal

I mind my own business, too. But lots of other people are busybodies.

That doesn’t warrant assaulting them.


45 posted on 08/24/2019 5:22:20 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: EEGator

Sure, he could’ve minded his own business. But he didn’t.

That doesn’t warrant shoving him to the ground.


46 posted on 08/24/2019 5:24:01 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Perhaps it’s better not to carry if your judgement isn’t razor-sharp.

Truth.

Everyone with a CCW would be advised to heed these words.

47 posted on 08/24/2019 5:28:35 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Tired of Taxes; yesthatjallen
Drejka was the original aggressor. He did anything but keep a low profile. He verbally confront a woman sitting in a car and her boyfriend came out to defend and protect her against a raving nut job.

I have to disagree.

It is never acceptable to use violence to stop a verbal assault.

McGlockton could have gotten in his car and driven away. The confrontation would have ended, he would still be alive and his child would have a father. (Yes his girlfriend had a child by him).

Yes, Drejka is a jerk but that does not justify violence against an old man by a much larger young man. Drejka could have sustained permanent disabling or fatal injury by being violently pushed to the ground by McGlockton.

I do agree with your description of proper carry etiquette, people that can not control their mouth should not carry. However that does not change the fact that physical contact was initiated by McGlockton.

48 posted on 08/24/2019 5:37:40 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: jmacusa

Because ANTIFA thinks it’s special.


49 posted on 08/24/2019 5:49:27 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: libstripper
"In his police interview, Drejka mentioned the 21-foot rule..."

Young man's been watching too much "Justified".


50 posted on 08/24/2019 6:06:40 AM PDT by moovova
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To: semaj
No, he is correct. The gn is used to stop the threat. Many threats end without shots being fired.

Get some training.

51 posted on 08/24/2019 6:11:12 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going no than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: House Atreides
Exactly. McGlockton takes a small step back, not a clear sign of retreat at all.

Also notice that when McGlockton comes up the baby mama exits the car before the assault.

Why? Was she going to join in the attack?

She was obviously not "in fear for her life" as she testified in court.

52 posted on 08/24/2019 6:13:49 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: vpintheak

Where did he say “shoot to wound?”


53 posted on 08/24/2019 6:15:49 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going no than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: JustaTech
If it's someone you know or know of, who knows you

If it's your daughter's boyfriend, you are probably going to prison.

54 posted on 08/24/2019 6:18:56 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: jmacusa
Then how does Antifa get away with it?

Because they are the shock troops of the invisible government.

55 posted on 08/24/2019 6:19:56 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: libstripper
Drejka lost because McGlockton retreated when Drejka pulled the gun.

It is not at all clear that Drejka could have seen a "retreat" movement after being knocked ten feet across the pavement and down on his back. Moreover, it appeared to me from seeing the video that McGlockton was lining up for a second strike on a downed man.

McGlockton was hit with a frontal shot to the chest. He was not running away when Drjeka shot him. He was running away after Drjeka shot him.

I believe that Drejka lost mainly because he was a White man who shot a Black man.

Had both participants been White men, this case would probably never have gone to trial.

56 posted on 08/24/2019 6:32:50 AM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: flamberge
I think you’re probably right. And the reality for a white person is that provoking a confrontation with a black person is, probably without exception, a very bad idea.

They don’t seem very receptive to impromptu etiquette or citizenship lessons.

57 posted on 08/24/2019 6:39:42 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going no than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Pontiac
McGlockton could have gotten in his car and driven away.

Put yourself in McGlocktons' place.

Your girlfriend is sitting in the car while you go into the store.

Some hot-head drives up and start ranting at your girlfriend.

Would your girlfriend feel threatened? Would you as the boyfriend feel compelled to defend her against an unprovoked verbal attack by a man who may be crazy or violent?

You have less than seconds to determine the threat level and take action to neutralize the threat.

As far as I can see, McGlockton had the same right of 'stand your ground' and to defend his girlfriend and himself as did Drejka.

Drejka started the fight and I can only imagine the fact he had a gun gave him the 'courage' to initiate the incident by verbally confronting the girlfriend.

Drejka wanted to start a fight but it escalated beyond what he imagined. McGlockton had every right to believe Drejka was a threat to his girlfriend and himself.

McGlockton was 'standing his ground' and he was defending himself and his girlfriend, only to neutralize the threat, McGlockton pushed Drejka down instead of shooting him.

Why do people defend Drejka by asking hypothetical questions about what McGlockton might have done next? I can ask similar questions about what McGlockton believed what Drejka might have done next. Why does Drejka fear about what might happen next supersede what McGlockton feared Drejka might do next? And McGlocktons' fears were justified. He was the one who was killed.

It's people like Drejka who give gun owners a bad reputation. Because of Drejka watch for renewed efforts to undermine and eliminate 'stand your ground' laws.

58 posted on 08/24/2019 7:18:20 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: jmacusa

“The logic in your argument or the states, which ever you’re using makes no sense.”

Nevertheless, that’s the way the law works in some places.

“Time and again I’ve seen it here and heard from gun owners: When you must shoot, shoot to kill.”

I’ve seen and heard that too, but in places where the law works that way, a statement of intent to kill made before or after the event may be used against you in the legal aftermath.

I’m raising this point in the hope of keeping someone out of further trouble if they are ever in such a situation.


59 posted on 08/24/2019 7:36:53 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: libstripper

From what I saw in the video:

1) Drejka did not assault McGlockton
2) McGlockton committed assault and battery against Drejka
3) After Drejka was on the ground and COULD NO LONGER RETREAT,
4) McGlockton first moves to approach and only starts to move in a different direction when Drejka pulls his firearm.
5) Looking at the steps taken by McGlockton, the distance between the two is only increased AFTER Drejka fires.

In my opinion, justifiable shooting. This “conviction” is a political travesty of justice.

This shooting is further proof that if you draw your weapon, there will be three times you will have to deal with the incident:

1) The incident itself
2) the legal ramifications
3) the emotional trauma and self doubt.


60 posted on 08/24/2019 7:49:50 AM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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