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Feds Order Apple And Google To Hand Over Names Of 10,000+ Users Of A Gun Scope App
Forbes ^ | September 6th, 2019 | Thomas Brewster

Posted on 09/06/2019 10:02:55 AM PDT by Mariner

Own a rifle? Got a scope to go with it? The government might soon know who you are, where you live and how to reach you.

That’s because Apple and Google have been ordered by the U.S. government to hand over names, phone numbers and other identifying data of at least 10,000 users of a single gun scope app, Forbes has discovered. It’s an unprecedented move: Never before has a case been disclosed in which American investigators demanded personal data of users of a single app from Apple and Google. And never has an order been made public where the feds have asked the Silicon Valley giants for info on so many thousands of people in one go.

According to a court order filed by the Department of Justice (DOJ) on September 5, investigators want information on users of Obsidian 4, a tool used to control rifle scopes made by night-vision specialist American Technologies Network Corp. The app allows gun owners to get a live stream, take video and calibrate their gun scope from an Android or iPhone device. According to the Google Play page for Obsidian 4, it has more than 10,000 downloads. Apple doesn’t provide download numbers, so it’s unclear how many iPhone owners have been swept up in this latest government data grab.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amtech; apple; banglist; doj; google; googleplaypage; governmentdatagrab; obsidian4
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This very likely has nothing to do with export licenses.

And is very likely the result of govt wanting to know who can fire at them from 200yds away at night.

With perfect accuracy.

1 posted on 09/06/2019 10:02:55 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Must be a good app.


2 posted on 09/06/2019 10:06:24 AM PDT by fruser1
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This is what the Feds do when Trump is in office.

Put Bernie Sanders or Beto or any of the others in office and see what happens.


3 posted on 09/06/2019 10:06:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Mariner

More pre-crime stuff, presumption of guilt.


4 posted on 09/06/2019 10:06:52 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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I think about 50 million of us need to go out and download this app today.

FBI should make the most of their shoe leather.


5 posted on 09/06/2019 10:07:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Mariner

This should have to hit the SCOTUS before Apple releases a single person’s information.


6 posted on 09/06/2019 10:07:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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Apple and Google will release it right away, and without a fight.


7 posted on 09/06/2019 10:09:05 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

That’s my take as well.

They’re anti-gun, so what’s so hard to figure on that one.

Not dinging you for the mention. You’re right.


8 posted on 09/06/2019 10:11:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: fruser1

Everyone should download it just to waste their time.


9 posted on 09/06/2019 10:14:07 AM PDT by cnsmom (G)
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I think about 50 million of us need to go out and download this app today.

That was exactly my first thought too - and I have acted on it.

I now have the app even though I don't have the hardware to go along with it.

Screw these people!

10 posted on 09/06/2019 10:14:35 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I believed I’ll do just that.

L


11 posted on 09/06/2019 10:15:20 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The police state agencies do whatever is in their personal interests and the interests of forces hostile to US citizens. It isn’t hard for them because of their totalitarian surveillance capabilities, money laundering and the ability to operate independently and in secrecy.

Trump has little control over them. Just look at barr and wray.


12 posted on 09/06/2019 10:15:36 AM PDT by grumpygresh
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To: Mariner

Another reason I don’t do “apps”.


13 posted on 09/06/2019 10:16:02 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurker

We Are All Spartacus...


14 posted on 09/06/2019 10:16:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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Most people would be shocked and angry to find out how much the government can and does get without a warrant. National Security Letters, as well as the sort of informal cooperation noted in this article. It is NOT unprecedented, it did NOT start with Obama.

The people who gravitate to these offices do so because they like power. Snooping occurs to the extent that technology enables it. The legal impediments are a farce.

15 posted on 09/06/2019 10:16:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Getting it now.


16 posted on 09/06/2019 10:16:43 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: fruser1
Must be a good app.

Obviously someone was impressed.

Of course any IoT/Connected app has one simple flaw.

17 posted on 09/06/2019 10:16:49 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: Mariner; Travis McGee

tech ping


18 posted on 09/06/2019 10:18:41 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: ClearCase_guy

It’ll get 5x worse.


19 posted on 09/06/2019 10:19:36 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: fruser1

Must be a good app.


That’s exactly what I was thinking. I need to download it to one of my “junk” Gmail accounts.


20 posted on 09/06/2019 10:19:37 AM PDT by cuban leaf (We're living in Dr. Zhivago but without the love triangle)
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