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Did Boris Johnson Just Rope-a-Dope His Way into a Hard Brexit?
American Thinker ^ | 09/08/2019 | Mark Hanna

Posted on 09/08/2019 7:31:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

As of Friday, September 6, an extension of three months to prevent the U.K. leaving the E.U. without a deal passed the Houses of Commons and Lords. In order for that legislation to become law, there must be consent by the monarch — in this case, Queen Elizabeth II. Once she assents, the bill becomes law.

While most everyone is considering her assent a formality on Monday, it should not quite yet be considered a fait accompli. The queen can lawfully refuse assent or delay her approval, which would effectively veto the bill and keep it from becoming law, thereby paving the way to a No Deal Brexit on October 31.

There are two occasions when the monarch can and should, according to most academic experts in the matter, refuse assent.

According to Anne Twomey, professor of constitutional law at the the University of Sydney in her book The Veiled Sceptre, the first occasion is that where a "serious error is discovered in the bill." No one is arguing that there is an error in the Remainers' meticulously crafted bill of extension.

But the second occasion in relation to royal assent, "the predominant academic view ... is that the Sovereign ... must act upon the advice of responsible ministers."

Professor of public law at the University of Glasgow School of Law Adam Tomkins concurs. From his book Public Law: "If the monarch were given clear and firm Prime Ministerial advice that she should withhold her royal assent to a Bill which had passed through the Houses of Parliament, it seems to be the case that the monarch should follow that advice."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: borisjohnson; brexit; brexitparty; europeanunion; nato; nigelfarage; queenelizabethii; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 09/08/2019 7:31:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Read and understand that garbled crap and you’ll know THAT and not religion is the reason for the Pilgrims fleeing the country.


2 posted on 09/08/2019 7:39:17 AM PDT by lewislynn (STOP SUPPORTING CHINA! DO IT NOW!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope they dump the EU and all their over-regulating, Marxist control freaks.


3 posted on 09/08/2019 7:39:22 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rope-A-Dope


4 posted on 09/08/2019 7:40:22 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: SeekAndFind

So did the EU give them an extension? I thought that was the way out. EU has to agree to it as well. And who from britain is going to ask the EU? Does Boris get to give a half asked, let us extend 3 months?


5 posted on 09/08/2019 7:40:25 AM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t think Johnson’s strategy will involve forcing the Queen to publicly give up her ostensible political neutrality and not gave Assent.

As I understand this law forcing him to seek an Article 50 extension will also now be taken to court. With a prorogued Parliament coming, he will simply allow the clock to run out.

Corbyn has indeed effectively given a vote of confidence in the Johnson Government by not wanting an election, which is simply bizarre. Johnson should emphasize this.


6 posted on 09/08/2019 7:43:21 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

assent means consent?


7 posted on 09/08/2019 7:45:57 AM PDT by Rio
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To: SeekAndFind

The Queen is very aware that THE PEOPLE voted to leave Brexit. She will veto the extension.


8 posted on 09/08/2019 7:49:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

During all the Brexit drama, has the EU dialed back their passion for micromanagement to any extent?


9 posted on 09/08/2019 7:56:48 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Steely Tom

Not that I have seen.

If anything, they have become more arrogant.


10 posted on 09/08/2019 8:03:06 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: lewislynn

Amen, lewislynn. I’m extremely interested in this topic, but gave up trying to understand what’s going on about ten days ago


11 posted on 09/08/2019 8:15:23 AM PDT by j.havenfarm ( 2,000 posts as of 1/16/19. A FReeper since 2000; never shutting up!)
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To: lewislynn

Huh?


12 posted on 09/08/2019 8:17:55 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: lewislynn

The Queen has veto power so the Pilgrims fled. Hmmm.


13 posted on 09/08/2019 8:20:00 AM PDT by aspasia
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So did the EU give them an extension?

Nope... the EU just hit the remainers from the other side..

GET IT DONE Now EU’s Brexit chief joins calls for an election as he slams any new delay as ‘unacceptable’
14 posted on 09/08/2019 8:20:07 AM PDT by battousai (Trump was wrong... I'm still not tired of Winning!)
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To: SeekAndFind

An absolutely wonderful chess game.

Problem is, Johnson kind of reminds me of Glenn Beck. Hope I’m wrong.


15 posted on 09/08/2019 8:22:50 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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As I understand this law forcing him to seek an Article 50 extension will also now be taken to court. With a prorogued Parliament coming, he will simply allow the clock to run out.

If a bill requires a PM to take a positive action, and Boris refuses to act, then what will they do?

16 posted on 09/08/2019 8:26:18 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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If a bill requires a PM to take a positive action, and Boris refuses to act, then what will they do?

I don't follow UK politics very closely, and we are now really into the weeds of the unwritten UK Constitution. But my overall view is - remainers in the UK are a spineless and craven bunch, much like America's own careerist, statist politicians and DC bureaucrats. They like the status quo, because it gives them social-standing and a good living, but have no clear principles or guiding philosophy, and certainly no guts to stand up for anything.

So Johnson will run out the clock. He will act and thus be responsible, whether for success or for failure. Remainers will simply whine, but do nothing.

I am extremely interested in what happens Oct. 31. Whatever happens will likely set off a chain reaction of huge consequences in Europe and across the world.

17 posted on 09/08/2019 8:40:36 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: tired&retired
Problem is, Johnson kind of reminds me of Glenn Beck. Hope I’m wrong.

Johnson has been a bit of a flip-flopper on conservative issues, and even Brexit previously. If anyone has been principled and utterly consistent in aligning his philosophy and actions, it has been Nigel Farage.

But I'm hopeful for Johnson regarding Brexit. He's truly a student of history, particularly in classical antiquity. He understands this is a truly pivotal time in his nation's history that calls for a Pericles or Scipio - and he craves that kind of historical fame.

18 posted on 09/08/2019 8:51:08 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: battousai
...the EU just hit the remainers from the other side...

Yes. The impression I got from the wording was that the EU isn't going to sign onto the game of the Remainers who were demanding another vote suddenly blocking that vote. Whether the Queen actually assents, and she hasn't yet, may turn out to be irrelevant.

19 posted on 09/08/2019 9:03:42 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Bon mots

Brain damage is more like it in the real world.


20 posted on 09/08/2019 9:05:00 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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