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GOP allies warn vaping ban will sink Trump in 2020
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Posted on 09/22/2019 3:33:35 PM PDT by MarvinStinson

Conservative leaders are circulating data to White House staff that claims adults who vape will turn on President Trump if he follows through with his planned ban on flavored e-cigarettes, Axios has learned.

Between the lines: The data (shown below) reveals that the number of adult vapers in key battleground states greatly outweighs the margins by which Trump won those states in 2016 — and they argue it could cost him reelection.

What we're hearing: "While parents may be concerned about e-cigarettes, the people who genuinely care about vaping as a voting issue so far outweighs the number of people Trump needs to win in 2020 that they are royally screwing themselves by doing this," Paul Blair, the director of strategic initiatives at Americans for Tax Reform, tells me.

Suburban moms concerned about vaping "don't have the same voter intensity on this as adult vapers do," an industry lobbyist said. Florida, which Trump won by 113,000 voters, had about 873,000 adult vapers in 2016. They reason that if 1 in 8 vapers turn against Trump in 2020 because he foreclosed their vaping options, it could jeopardize the election. Why it matters: If the FDA backs away from Trump's proposed enforcement policy, it would be the second time in recent weeks that political concerns prompted him to dial back government regulations.

Trump's openness this summer to expanded background checks cooled after the gun lobby and campaign advisers warned about bad internal polling. Our thought bubble: There are four unsubstantiated assumptions about adult vapers in the case being presented to Trump:

They start out as Trump voters. They wouldn't vape anymore if they couldn't get the flavors. They are single-issue voters around vaping rights. The eventual Democratic nominee would be more vape-friendly. Still, the math can't be totally ignored, especially in places like Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin where Trump's 2016 win margins were so narrow and the number of adult vapers is relatively high.

By the numbers: More than 4 million people in swing states regularly used e-cigarettes in 2016, according to FDA-funded survey data published last year in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

Industry experts say that number has increased significantly in recent years.

Data: Mirboulouk, et. al, 2016, "Prevalence and Distribution of E-Cigarette Use Among U.S. Adults: Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, 2016", Census Bureau, Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections; Chart: Andrew Witherspoon/Axios Behind the scenes: The White House scheduled a listening session with conservative groups last Thursday after receiving intense backlash from GOP leaders and industry execs following the announcement of the ban.

Among the invitees: The Competitive Enterprise Institute, the Goldwater Institute, AFT and the Vapor Technology Association. But roughly 24 hours after invitations went out, the meeting was canceled. "They’re in chaos mode on this stuff because the backlash has been so resoundingly overpowering," one invitee said. A White House official says the meeting is expected to be rescheduled. The bottom line: The political pressure points regarding the ban have gotten Trump's attention.

Shortly after the proposed ban was announced, Trump tweeted that he still likes vaping as an alternative to cigarettes. Trump's 2020 campaign manager Brad Parscale also hit back at a Trump follower who tweeted that banning vaping products is "not on brand with MAGA." One administration official said the tweets were prompted by a flood of criticism from conservative leaders.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: pufflist; trump2020; vaping
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81 posted on 09/23/2019 7:00:21 AM PDT by GregoTX
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To: MarvinStinson

Trump sunk again story.


82 posted on 09/23/2019 7:08:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Elsie

That warning mentions addiction but not lung disease.

I haven’t seen numbers but I’ve heard a lot of people used the vaping devices to get away from nicotine. You can dial down the amount.

And everyone thought that the new chemicals were probably better than the tar. But there was no testing.


83 posted on 09/23/2019 9:17:41 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Peter W. Kessler

Only when your smoke drifts my direction; then I move away.

Abortion is ‘legal’; too.

It REALLY ‘annoys’ me!


84 posted on 09/24/2019 5:25:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: READINABLUESTATE
There are 50 million people who vape currently. Mostly Millennials.

Ain't choice grand!

85 posted on 09/24/2019 5:26:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DannyTN

Mom; me and a bunch of the guys are going down to the bridge.

We’re gonna jump off.


86 posted on 09/24/2019 5:28:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: READINABLUESTATE
There are 50+ million people who vape currently.

Fake news...and how many are American voters?

87 posted on 09/24/2019 5:40:30 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: traderrob6

He would be wise to at least stay out of this one, or at most promote any and all regulation be done at the state level..


Yep. Only a year to the election. Best to just appoint a beltway committee to produce a report on vaping and punt the issue past November 2020. Maybe Horowitz is free? He’s great at slow walking things.


88 posted on 09/24/2019 5:46:09 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: MarvinStinson

This is just a stealth weed industry sales issue. The problem is not the e-cig vaping. It is the weed-vaping with adjustable settings to increase the heat and intake settings to get a better buzz.


89 posted on 09/24/2019 7:47:30 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: MarvinStinson

BS


90 posted on 09/26/2019 12:11:17 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: MarvinStinson; GOPsterinMA

I don’t know about THAT.

But trying to ban vaping is ridiculous. The problems are all with bootleg marijuana vape fluid.

Nictoine vape has been on the market for years and has saved
thousands of people from lung disease.

Walmart stops selling vapes but still sells Marlboros, give me a break. I bet the tobacco industry is pushing this somehow, and the President shouldn’t listen to any hysterical idiots who may be whispering in his ear.


91 posted on 09/26/2019 11:17:46 PM PDT by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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