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_Europe Won't Help, and We’re Not Going to Hold Thousands of ISIS Fighters at Guantanamo Bay
CNS ^ | October 8, 2019 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 10/09/2019 12:21:49 PM PDT by xzins

The United States for months has been urging European countries to repatriate captured ISIS fighters and their families from northeastern Syria, to no avail, and the U.S. is not about to incarcerate them in Guantanamo Bay, President Trump said on Monday.

“We’re not bringing 50, 60, 70 – or even 10,000 people to Guantanamo Bay in Cuba,” Trump told reporters at the White House. “We’re not going to be paying them for the next 50 years – or paying to take care of them for the next 50 years.”

He characterized the European response to Washington’s appeals as another example of allies taking advantage of the U.S., and treating it as a “sucker.”

Trump’s comments came after the White House announced a pullback of U.S. troops in the area, ahead of a planned Turkish military operation against Kurdish fighters who were U.S. allies in the campaign to defeat ISIS.

The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) are dominated by fighters from the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), whom Turkey views as terrorists because of links to the Kurdish Workers’ Party (PKK) – a radical group which Turkey, as well as the U.S. and European Union, has designated a terrorist organization.

As Trump faced questions on the move, which is drawing strong criticism from many Democrats and Republicans, he recalled his campaign pledges to bring home U.S. troops from what were originally supposed to be limited military engagements.

He also expressed frustration about other countries’ reluctance to repatriate their citizens among the thousands of ISIS jihadists being held by the SDF, along with their family members, following the fall of the Sunni terrorist group’s so-called caliphate.

U.N. officials have put the number of captured fighters and families in the tens of thousands. Many are being housed at the Al-Hol displaced persons camp in northern Syria, where the population swelled from some 10,000 last January to around 73,000 by April.

In its Syria statement on Sunday, the White House said the U.S. had pressed European nations to take back their fighters, but they refused.

“The United States will not hold them for what could be many years and great cost to the United States taxpayer,” it said.

And – in what some analysts saw as a veiled warning to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan about the implications of a military operation in the area, the statement continued, “Turkey will now be responsible for all ISIS fighters in the area captured over the past two years.”

In his comments Monday, Trump returned to the subject:

“What are we going to do with these 60 to 70,000 people that are – that are being held and being guarded and we can’t release them, and many fighters also?” he asked.

“And I said, ‘I want them to go back to Germany, to France, to different European countries from where they came.’ And I said to the European countries, I said to all of them, ‘Take the people back.’”

“And they said, ‘No, no, no, we don’t want to do it. We don’t want them back,’” Trump said.

“And they’re so used to the United States being a sucker, being a fool,” he continued. “We’re talking about billions and billions of dollars.”

The Al-Hol camp in northeastern Syria. (Photo by Fadel Senna/AFP/Getty Images) Trump said he had told the Europeans repeatedly to take back their citizens, but “they kept saying no. Maybe they won’t be saying no now, I don’t know.”

Trump said the U.S. had done “a great service” for the world and Europe in particular by leading the effort to defeat ISIS, but that, unfortunately, “they take advantage” of the U.S.

He warned that the U.S. would be watching Turkey, and hoped that the Turks, Europeans and others would do “whatever they’re supposed to do with these captured ISIS fighters and families.”

‘A global threat’

European governments have voiced reluctance to repatriate citizens who joined ISIS’ jihad. Reasons vary, but include concerns that difficulties in obtaining clear evidence of wrongdoing will see suspects dodge conviction and be released back into society.

In France, public opinion runs strongly against repatriating jihadists, although there is considerable support for allowing the French wives and children to return home.

E.U. governments generally want suspects to be tried in the countries where the alleged crimes were committed. Some foreign jihadists, including French nationals, have been put on trial in Iraq, and handed death sentences.

An intelligence report compiled for French lawmakers last year estimated that about 5,000 citizens of E.U. countries traveled to the region to join ISIS, including more than 1,300 from France, 800 from Germany, 800 from Britain, 500 from Belgium, 250 from Spain and 100 from Italy.

Non-E.U. foreign fighters who traveled to join ISIS were estimated to include 4,000-4,500 from Russia or Russian-speaking countries in Central Asia and the Caucasus, 2,000-3,000 from Tunisia, 1,600-1,700 from Morocco, 700 from Indonesia, 600 from Egypt, and 200-300 from Algeria.

Many of those fighters had been killed during the fighting, the report said.

Even before the fall last March of the last foothold of ISIS-held territory in eastern Syria, the U.S. had been urging foreign governments to take back their captured citizens.

“Repatriating these foreign terrorist fighters to their countries of origin, ensuring that they are prosecuted and detained – that’s the best solution to preventing them from returning to the battlefield,” the State Department said in February.

“We view these fighters as a global threat and we seek global cooperation to resolve that threat.”


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: angelamerkel; emmanuelmacron; erdogan; europeanunion; expense; france; germany; isis; kurdistan; macron; nato; patrickgoodenough; receptayyiperdogan; syria; trump; turkey
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To: xzins

Turn them over to Syria and let them do the dirty work.


21 posted on 10/09/2019 12:43:59 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: xzins

SPJNK x 10,000


22 posted on 10/09/2019 12:45:21 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: xzins

There’s no question we’ll be able to count on Turkey to handle this situation very delicately. Not.


23 posted on 10/09/2019 12:46:03 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: Cowboy Bob

seriously, if the kurds just killed all the males, who would stick up for them, except Turkey, who created ISIS in the first place, but even they would not be stupid enough to stand up for them. ISIS were merciless savages. Why they even took them captive without killing them in the first place is crazy. We have cook outs and play in our back yards for leisurely past time. Muslims are just a killing for their past time. ISIS has to be the only group on the planet that nobody would say boo about if the kurds just put them to sleep. Neither the kurds or isis have any recognized status at the UN, so what would the UN do or say to anyone? Like is anyone really going to pursue the kurds for killing ISIS?


24 posted on 10/09/2019 12:46:53 PM PDT by pghbjugop
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To: xzins

so neither USA nor European countries will ever grow up

you either kill your sworn enemies who are hellbent on your destruction or
they will indeed kill you

period.
end of file.

if we let the isis terrorists go free, they will just start attacking and murdering again, anywhere and everywhere they wish


25 posted on 10/09/2019 12:49:31 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not , born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: xzins

Mow them down, pile them up, leave um.
That’s the message that needs to be sent.
What goes around comes around.


26 posted on 10/09/2019 12:54:19 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Bob434

That was Marie Harf, wasn’t it?


27 posted on 10/09/2019 12:55:17 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (It's Ok to be white.)
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To: 2banana

Better yet the Kurds.


28 posted on 10/09/2019 12:55:20 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: forgotten man; All; Admin Moderator

stop it

Do you want FreeRepublic to become known as the site that has people calling for execution of prisoners of war?


29 posted on 10/09/2019 12:59:39 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: xzins
Build a wall around George W. Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas -- and put all the ISIS prisoners there.

Any war-mongering globalist who complains about the U.S. "withdrawal" from Syria gets airlifted in there with them.

30 posted on 10/09/2019 1:00:47 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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To: xzins

Castrate every one of them. Preferably with 5.56 rounds.


31 posted on 10/09/2019 1:00:50 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: xzins

It’s true, we can’t keep them at gitmo. We need the space for all the seditious bastards who are going to be rounded up.


32 posted on 10/09/2019 1:03:06 PM PDT by sevlex
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To: Abathar
We can afford a single MOAB.

My thoughts exactly! And we probably need more data on MOABs.

33 posted on 10/09/2019 1:08:49 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Takedown My Duly Elected President and You're Attacking The Constitution! IT WILL BE DEFENDED!)
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To: Mr. K

Put them on Obama care drop some ebola patients in the middle and wait till the placebos run out.


34 posted on 10/09/2019 1:21:18 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: xzins

Outsource to a 3rd-party country. Philippines might take them for $1000/year each. If they die, oh well.


35 posted on 10/09/2019 1:46:34 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the worldÂ’s problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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To: 2banana
The Assad dynasty has experience in disposing of Sunni insurgents in the tens of thousands. See Hama, 1982. The town is on the Karnak Bus route from Damascus to Aleppo and the Christian Quarter (largely untouched by the Syrian Army shelling) contained a rest stop for the bus passengers. Outside of that, what had been the rest of the town was neat little mounds of rubble, like hay stacks, stretching as far as the eye can see.

I rode that bus both ways about six months after the "massacre". According to some people I spoke with when we were in a moving car and away from being overheard the number of (Sunni) residents who survived the shelling and were then loaded on to trucks never to be seen again was in the 40,000 plus range. So yeah, The Syrians can handle the ISIS prisoners if no one else will.

36 posted on 10/09/2019 1:57:34 PM PDT by katana
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To: xzins

DASIY CUTTER them to their Paradise.


37 posted on 10/09/2019 1:59:12 PM PDT by LeonardFMason (Lou Dobbs)
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To: FLT-bird

Turn them over to the relatives of the females Yazidis that were sold into slavery and turned into whores.

Then feed them all to the pigs.


38 posted on 10/09/2019 1:59:42 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: xzins

Trump making sense again.


39 posted on 10/09/2019 2:04:53 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: carriage_hill

SPJNK ??

WNAIT ??


40 posted on 10/09/2019 2:18:37 PM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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