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A conversation with Christopher Columbus
lowell sun ^ | 10/11 | peter lucas

Posted on 10/11/2019 10:19:43 AM PDT by luke1825

Flying from Rome to Boston on Alitalia on Columbus Day, I fell asleep and dreamed that Christopher Columbus was seated beside me. He had the window seat.

“ What did I do wrong?” he asked in my dream. “ Why do people hate me?”

“ I’m not sure,” I said.

“ How did I go from a hero to a bum?”

(Excerpt) Read more at lowellsun.ma.newsmemory.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: columbusday

1 posted on 10/11/2019 10:19:43 AM PDT by luke1825
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To: luke1825

One thing you can say about Columbus, he changed history enough that no one alive today would be here if he had failed to exist. Not a one, from indigenous peoples to colonizers. I doubt even “undiscovered” tribes have avoided enough contact to be exempt. Or maybe they would have been “discovered” had someone else explored the new world, which would have eventually happened anyway.

Oh sure, people would still be here, but not you or I. We should give Columbus some “props”, unless we’re self-hating leftists.


2 posted on 10/11/2019 10:28:27 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: luke1825

Had Columbus never “sailed the ocean blue”,
the New World would have still been discovered in 1500 by ..

Pedro Álvares Cabral


3 posted on 10/11/2019 10:31:40 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: luke1825

He was a white guy.


4 posted on 10/11/2019 10:32:07 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: luke1825

And just how much different would the world be today IF a boat load of American Indians had somehow landed in Europe in 1490, then went home to tell of their discovery.

Not much, because they still would have taken home lots of European diseases, and left some of theirs behind. Then they would have been followed by better armed galleons loaded for bear!


5 posted on 10/11/2019 10:35:55 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

We might have had a District of Cabral, cocaine from Cabral, and Cabral movie studios.

But Amerigo Vespucci would have still stolen the name of the country and continents.


6 posted on 10/11/2019 10:39:01 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: luke1825

Captain Columbus - You are still a hero to many of us! Keep the faith! This will pass someday


7 posted on 10/11/2019 10:59:57 AM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEdLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: luke1825

Pete needs to lay off the booze in the airport lounge.


8 posted on 10/11/2019 11:04:09 AM PDT by bgill
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To: luke1825

The discovery of America is probably the greatest Black Swan event in history. The people Columbus discovered were still in the Stone Age. However, Columbus was still kind of a doofus for believing he’d hit India.


9 posted on 10/11/2019 11:06:54 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Pocahontas (the other one) sailed to England where she died.


10 posted on 10/11/2019 11:07:19 AM PDT by bgill
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To: luke1825

Columbus’ explorations led to the greatest country and society in the history of the world the US. I support a holiday in his favor. The Indians were overwhelmed by a superior culture technologically, militarily, and every other way.

This is what he did wrong:

https://rapidcityjournal.com/lifestyles/people/top-atrocities-committed-by-christopher-columbus/collection_76ebb2b8-f63d-11e3-a137-001a4bcf887a.html#1


11 posted on 10/11/2019 11:09:59 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: luke1825

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qiqdb518wZ8

Nuff said.


12 posted on 10/11/2019 11:20:36 AM PDT by gdzla (Tyrannis Seditio, Obsequium Deo)
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To: luke1825

God bless Vespucciland!

—Firesign Theater


13 posted on 10/11/2019 11:40:30 AM PDT by Colinsky
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To: luke1825; All
White Europeans were the first to discover North America...and then were genocided by the "Native American" Nazis. Where are our reparations, Geronimo?

Ice Age mariners from Europe were America’s first inhabitants

14 posted on 10/11/2019 11:47:41 AM PDT by montag813
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To: morphing libertarian

Notice no mention of the cannibal Carib tribes who routinely ate each other and other peace loving cannibal Indians. No mention of the Aztecs sacrificing 100s of thousands of surrounding tribesmen. No mention of the incident on Jamaica where the natives planned to eat Columbus and his crew...


15 posted on 10/11/2019 11:59:32 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Indigenous don’t commit crimes Donchano.


16 posted on 10/11/2019 12:02:28 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: morphing libertarian

If it wasn’t for fear of neighboring cannibal tribes, Massasoit would not have made an alliance with the pilgrims. He would have eaten white man meat for Harvest Festival and then taken the white women for squaws


17 posted on 10/11/2019 12:14:57 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

good for him


18 posted on 10/11/2019 12:19:53 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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