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The Real Reason for “Civil War” Monuments
https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/ ^ | November 7, 2019 | Ernest Blevins

Posted on 11/14/2019 6:05:41 PM PST by NKP_Vet

In 2016, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) released the “Whose Heritage?” report on the Confederate symbols in the United States. This report had one thesis: The Confederate monuments, memorials, and namesakes were erected ruing the “Jim Crow” era to vindicate white supremacy without consideration of other factors.[1] The report was based on no documented sources, but the charting of monuments and namesakes was used to make a claim the rise of Confederate monuments were attributed to “Jim Crow” racism. Thus, the fallacy was born, an fallacy that is easily refuted by even a cursory examination of readily available source material.

First, many Northern states had Jim Crow laws with New York considered the Northern capital of Jim Crow.[2] In fact, one can make a case—and many did—that Northern attitudes in regard to blacks were harsher than Southerners who had nearly a three-hundred-year history of race relations. Jim Crow and racism were not isolated to a single region.

Second, only looking at the Confederate monuments with a laser beam focus on “racism” ignores the history of monument construction across the United States, North and South. Northern communities had built 32 monuments by 1867 when the first Confederate monuments were raised in West Virginia and South Carolina.

To get a better understanding of the Monument Movement, I conducted a study of the SPLC list of Confederate Monuments and created a corresponding list of Union Monuments utilizing a variety of internet, archival, and personal visits to the monuments. One variation is the Union list noted themes of the monuments which the SPLC did not consider.[3] Eliminating non-monuments from the SPLC Confederate list and limiting the dates for work from 1860-1920, there were 487 Confederate Monuments. The list of Union Monuments, which is arguably incomplete but enough to draw some conclusions, contained roughly the same number, 422, and like the Confederate list and did not include Grand Army of the Republic memorial halls, streets names, and school namesakes.....


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In every town where a Confederate Memorial has beed destroyed or taken down, they all have one thing in common. The local government is controlled by democrats, aka, socialists. Destruction of a country’s heritage, monuments to its leaders and fallen dead has always been the stuff of totalitarian governments. It has been allowed to happen in this country, aided and abetted by leftwing judges, who side with the anarchists, Even in states that have laws protecting the monuments the laws are ignored and the mob rules. We used to be a nation of laws. No more. America-hating thugs like ANTIFA are never held accountable and lawless politicians are allowed to ignore laws. Cops stand around with their arms folded while thugs pull down monuments. Today it’s Confederate memorials. They’re coming for Washington and Jefferson next. Will the cops stand around while monuments in Washington DC are vadalized?
1 posted on 11/14/2019 6:05:41 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

The SPLC is one of the most corrupt organizations in the nation. It’s leaders are very likely Communists who sympathize with leftist terrorists but do the same thing and get rich without the violence.

I was always told that the Confederate monument in DeFuniak Springs, was the first one. Now I here that two others were first.


2 posted on 11/14/2019 6:16:35 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Statues could be ordered from catalogs. Among options included a kepi or a forage cap. You could choose badges for hat and cartridge box and belt buckles. The standard option was US or CSA. Otherwise, the statues were identical. The focus was on the veterans.

The South wanted monuments because they had no known graves. Confederate soldiers could not buried in National Cemeteries at battlefields until many years after the war. Most, to this day, lie in unmarked mass graves.


3 posted on 11/14/2019 6:31:35 PM PST by centurion316
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To: NKP_Vet

Absolutely correct. Re-writing history, from the purpose of the monuments... which was to bury the sacred dead in memory of the families and heritage, who lost virtually everything, and at the same time to bind up the wounds of the war and bring the country together as the World approached the Monarchist World War I. For the joining together of Americans, in respect and honor— Re-uniting the Nation.

Not some specious “supremacy” crapola that SPLC HAS to promote because it serves THEIR MODERN narrative of Leftist hatred of the USA, and to continue to rub salt in wounds and make them open again, for the political division they think it will cause, to the LEFT’s advantage— in destroying our Constitutional Republic.


4 posted on 11/14/2019 6:54:28 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: NKP_Vet

My Civil War ancestors resided in Southern Missouri
and fought for the Union. I have been totally against
removal of Confederate statues and monuments from
the start whether they were originally erected to
honor Confederate soldiers or to serve Jim Crow purposes.
Either way it is about real history. My position is
that instead of destroying history they might opt
to add statues honoring slaves to expand the historic
record. But I guess history just aint what it used
to be.


5 posted on 11/14/2019 6:54:53 PM PST by Sivad (Demo M/O = infiltrate, overtake, politicize, weaponize)
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To: NKP_Vet

This article omits a major reason for the building of civil war memorials in the South, which is a speech that President McKinley (from Ohio) gave in 1898 to the Georgia legislature in Atlanta, Georgia. McKinley was seeking to heal the wounds of the Civil War and also to enlist the South’s support of the Spanish-American war. In the speech he noted the need to care for and remember the dead of both North and South. He got a rousing applause from his Georgia audience, the speech was widely reprinted, and the building of many of the Southern war memorials started soon after that. That is illustrated by the chart which is part of the article. Congress was also inspired as a result to create a Confederate cemetery at Arlington.

Many of the civil war soldier statues across North and South are referred to as “silent sentinels.” This term comes directly from McKinley’s speech: “What an army of silent sentinels we have, and with what loving care their graves are kept! Every soldier’s grave made during our unfortunate civil war is a tribute to American valor.”

See, e.g., http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/csa-mem.htm

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2015/0418/Civil-War-Silent-Sentinels-remain-quiet-memorials-to-the-common-soldier

It had nothing to do with “Jim Crow.”


6 posted on 11/14/2019 7:02:55 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: NKP_Vet; Chode; Squantos; snooter55; SkyDancer; Lockbox; carriage_hill; tubebender; Delta 21; ...

The REAL REASON should be to warn the STUPID SIDE (deep state dumbasses) to NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES OVER AGAIN !!!

Something is telling Us that they didn’t get the MESSAGE...


7 posted on 11/14/2019 7:03:21 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: centurion316; All

Despite the KNOWING LIES told by the “mainstream” media, the typical CSA soldier’s monument was erected (and USUALLY owned) by actual descendants of the Rebel dead.

MOST such monuments actually state that the statue is to MEMORIALIZE the WAR DEAD. = The statues/monuments have NOTHING whatever to do with slavery. NOTHING.
(Inasmuch as MANY free Black men fought for the South to the last drop of their blood, ONLY a complete IDIOT would believe that such A-A men would fight to preserve slavery.)

Of course the DAMNYANKEE-controlled mass media & academia DENY that the South had many THOUSANDS of NON-WHITE soldiers, sailors & marines, as it makes their LIES look STUPID.
(I invite anyone who doubts me to go to Arlington National Cemetery & SEE the marked graves of Black men who died following “Marse Robert”, as GEN Robert E Lee was commonly called by his younger soldiers & “The Starry Cross” flags. AND/OR look at the photos from the late 1800s of
the UNITED CONFEDERATE VETERANS reunions & see how many “dark-skinned men” in Rebel Gray uniforms that you see.= NO UCV veteran cared what COLOR that the fellow who was fighting with him was, as GIs care only about whether or not that you are fighting bravely for their side.)

Yours, TMN78247


8 posted on 11/14/2019 7:10:18 PM PST by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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Inasmuch as MANY free Black men fought for the South to the last drop of their blood, ONLY a complete IDIOT would believe that such A-A men would fight to preserve slavery.

Since your premise is wrong, your conclusion could also be flawed.

9 posted on 11/14/2019 7:12:14 PM PST by x
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To: Sivad

>>>Either way it is about real history. My position is that instead of destroying history they might opt to add statues honoring slaves to expand the historic
record.

Yes, it’s time for all those communities between Savannah and Atlanta to put up their General Sherman statues.


10 posted on 11/14/2019 7:18:00 PM PST by oincobx
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To: NKP_Vet

WWNHD? (What Would Nikki Haley Do?)


11 posted on 11/14/2019 7:18:56 PM PST by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Bump


12 posted on 11/14/2019 7:27:03 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: NKP_Vet

SPLC has its roots as a CIA front. SPLC is still a communist deep state spreader of propaganda and civil unrest.


13 posted on 11/14/2019 7:39:10 PM PST by atc23
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To: TMN78247

(I invite anyone who doubts me to go to Arlington National Cemetery & SEE the marked graves of Black men who died following “Marse Robert”,

Been to Arlington many time over the last 50 years. Do not recall ever seeing a grave marker which identified the deceased as black or white. I would request your knowledge of how I can identify a grave as that of an AA man that fought for Marse Robert. Would really like to know so that the next time I visit Arlington I will be able to tell.


14 posted on 11/14/2019 7:40:10 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: NKP_Vet

Wonder what they will do with the Stand Watie Memorial Highway, Memorial Bridge at Grove, and monument at Tahlequah Oklahoma.

Watie was a Confederate General of the Cherokee tribes and most of the Oklahoma tribes joined with the Confederacy. One of the last to cease fighting.

You would be surprised how many other tribes also made treaties with the Confederate States, from Canada to Mexico.

The tribes that made or were negotiating treaties with the Confederacy.
Cherokees, Creeks, Choctaws, Comanches, Wachitas, Kiowas, Pottawattamies, Chickasaws, Osages, Seminoles, Senecas, Shawnees, Quawpaws.
The South also had Indian agents operating all throughout the High Plains and mountain region stirring up other tribes such as the Sioux, Cheyenne, Navajo and Apaches to make war on the Union at that time.

Wonder if their names will become curse words due to their leanings.


15 posted on 11/14/2019 7:55:35 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: TMN78247

Have you found a copy of that book yet?


16 posted on 11/14/2019 8:00:36 PM PST by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: NKP_Vet

It’s Democrats removing reminders of their Confederate past.


17 posted on 11/15/2019 12:10:25 AM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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To: TMN78247
African Americans who were with The Army of Northern Virginia were camp slaves. The myth of “Black Confederates’’ has misconstrued and distorted the nature of slavery within the Confederate armies.
18 posted on 11/15/2019 12:17:24 AM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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A slight correction to my post 14. It is possible to tell some graves of AA veterans buried at Arlington. They are the ones with the head stones that have USCT inscribed on them. Of course they did not fight for Marse Robert. am still interested in how you identity the graves of AA Confederate veterans. Don’t suppose they are marked CSCT.


19 posted on 11/15/2019 2:25:31 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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Black Confederates are an integral component of the “Lost Cause”


20 posted on 11/15/2019 2:38:45 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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