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Never Trump strategist outlines plan to remove Trump by secret vote
Wash Examiner ^ | Nov 12 2019 | Tim Pearce

Posted on 11/15/2019 4:52:35 PM PST by rintintin

A former adviser to President George W. Bush has proposed a way for Senate Republicans to remove President Trump from office while avoiding accountability from angry Republican voters.

Juleanna Glover is a veteran Washington hostess, lobbyist, and strategist who has worked on the staffs of Bush, former Vice President Dick Cheney, and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Glover also advised Republican Arizona Sen. John McCain during his 2008 presidential run.

Glover, 50, a longtime Trump critic who supported independent candidate Evan McMullin in 2016, proposed a strategy for Senate Republicans to oust Trump should the House follow through with impeaching the president. In an article for Politico, Glover wrote that a handful of outgoing Republicans could take all the political heat and force the Senate to adopt a secret vote on the articles of impeachment passed in the House.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: coup; juleannaglover; miltromley; softcoup
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To: rintintin

This plan would be so secret that no one would even have proof of who actually voted for it. They would only have the final tally that said that everyone did.


41 posted on 11/15/2019 5:14:17 PM PST by Revel
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To: rintintin

Article I: “and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.”

You need 20 Senators to require a public vote, if secrecy has been imposed.


42 posted on 11/15/2019 5:14:52 PM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Elections are by secret ballot. Votes in Congress are different.


43 posted on 11/15/2019 5:14:55 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.2)
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To: rintintin

I! Me! I! Am! Superior!

44 posted on 11/15/2019 5:15:16 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: rintintin

Every Republican in Congress would be voted out, House and Senate, and they would deserve it.


45 posted on 11/15/2019 5:17:11 PM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave)
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To: Jim Noble

They do stuff like voice votes and unanimous consent, but voting in secret without recording the votes is a horse of another color.


46 posted on 11/15/2019 5:19:49 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.2)
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To: rintintin

So let me get this straight. The Anons on 4chan and 8chan are full of it and to be ignored at all cost but the Anons in impeachment are to be believed without question.


47 posted on 11/15/2019 5:19:54 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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To: rintintin

The GOP Senate members would be doing this as their final living act.


48 posted on 11/15/2019 5:20:02 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: DesertRhino

Thanks!

Apparently, they think they are clever.


49 posted on 11/15/2019 5:22:02 PM PST by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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To: rintintin

Do these idiots honestly think we will not hunt them down?


50 posted on 11/15/2019 5:22:59 PM PST by Bommer (2020 - Vote all incumbent congressmen and senators out! VOTE THE BUMS OUT!!!)
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To: rintintin

But first they are going to land on the sun. Don’t worry, they’ll be okay because they will be landing at night.


51 posted on 11/15/2019 5:23:18 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Williams; gibsonguy

Gibsonguy to Williams: “This was a question I had. Could mitt and a few traitors side up with all the rats and force a secret ballot? Would Mitch have to allow it? Would it be legal? If it’s a secret ballot I’d say the odds are fifty-fifty at best Trump survives. It’s no accident this little scumbags idea keeps popping up like it’s a new story.”

Williams to Gibsonguy: “Oh please the Republicans would still be destroyed if they oust the president in a secret ballot. The whole idea is preposterous. The voters would demand to know how their senators voted.”

To Williams: There would be a lot of negative media coverage stating that it was right and just, plus most voters would not notice.


52 posted on 11/15/2019 5:26:02 PM PST by Wiz-Nerd
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To: Williams

Well I would agree it would be a tipping point l really think all hell would break loose if they tried this. I just wondered about the legal question. I wonder how many Rino’s have the attitude that we will be mad but we’ll get over it and accept Pence because where else are we going to go? They will be in for hell surprise when we drag their asses out of the Capital and burn it to the ground.


53 posted on 11/15/2019 5:29:27 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: rintintin

Even though jury deliberations are conducted in secret, the defense has the right to have the judge poll the jurors in public as to how they voted on each count.


54 posted on 11/15/2019 5:32:05 PM PST by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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To: Jim Noble

So only 20 Senators can force it to be public if they try this BS? Hmm does Trump have that many he can rely on? Sad that is even in doubt.


55 posted on 11/15/2019 5:32:59 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: rintintin

Oust him and there will be so much blood in the streets it will make Iraq and syria look like a pacifist nunnery. Oust him secretly and all bets are off. The deep swamp’s Dictatorship will be overt


56 posted on 11/15/2019 5:44:23 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not , born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Williams

“I’m not even sure the Senate can have secret votes of any kind. If you don’t record each person’s vote how can the result be official?”

My understanding is that each house of Congress has total authority to set its own rules. The Senate could adopt a rule allowing for the vote after an impeachment trial to be by a secret ballot, with only the number voting to convict or acquit being reported, but not who voted which way. I’m not a lawyer or a parliamentarian, so I could easily be wrong, but I think a rule can be adopted by a mere majority vote. Assuming all the Democrats (45) vote for the secret vote rule and the 2 Independents also vote that way, it would take 4 Republicans to force the adoption of the rule. I assume the vote on the rule would be a recorded roll call.


57 posted on 11/15/2019 5:44:58 PM PST by Stirner
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To: faithhopecharity

If they do it, they’ll do it over Christmas when people are distracted


58 posted on 11/15/2019 5:45:12 PM PST by rintintin
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To: Right Wing Assault

yes. Open the dictionary under “”gutless” and there’s a picture of a (generic) Republican senator. Takes Yer pick


59 posted on 11/15/2019 5:47:06 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not , born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: rintintin

Free countries do not do secret votes.

We will overthrow the whole fuching mess if this sh1t begins. We also know the names of the people to go after.


60 posted on 11/15/2019 5:47:19 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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