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Brown University Scholar Tells the Truth About Slavery
citizenfreepress.com ^ | 12/1/19 | Kane

Posted on 12/02/2019 3:01:05 AM PST by a little elbow grease

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To: heartwood

Both sides of my family were 1669’s settlers out of the Richmond colony to the mid eastern shore of the Chesapeake Bay. They were not immigrants. They were not slaveholders. They were poor families searching for a new life in a new country not yet populated even by earlier settlers. A few nomadic tribes wandered through annually. These were the first people to live on this land permanently. That is the story of America.


21 posted on 12/02/2019 4:56:15 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (A deep and terrible ignorance born of abject corruption is required to hate our president.)
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To: OttawaFreeper
Back then, Parkman and other writers created a narrative that legitimized the English, Protestant, and white nation and culture as supreme and above all other races or ethnicities. The conquest of America and the native savages was something like that in action

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Interesting ...."something like that".

22 posted on 12/02/2019 5:00:11 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: a little elbow grease

23 posted on 12/02/2019 5:04:54 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: a little elbow grease

The 1619 Project is simply the latest way to piss off blacks and demean whites. Tell the truth: European colonists instituted slavery while Americans, in one generation, eliminated it. You can shove your “400 years” BS. I am officially over it. I have no guilt in that regard.


24 posted on 12/02/2019 5:26:49 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: a little elbow grease

Forgive me, was it a poor or awkward choice of words? I just simply meant to say that Parkman’s portrayal of natives as savages and that the conquest of them basically legitimized the attitude common back then that had the white, English Protestant culture as superior to all others.


25 posted on 12/02/2019 5:27:09 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: a little elbow grease

Again, for those interested, I have a series on www.wildworldofhistory.com called “The 1620 Defaut,” arguing that the “four pillars of American exceptionalism” start at Plymouth in 1620, not Jamestown, and that there was nothing “exceptional” about the Jamestown colony.

But everything was exceptional about Plymouth, including the fact that they did not have slaves.

Sign up for the VIP side at Wild World of History for the series.


26 posted on 12/02/2019 5:42:35 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: a little elbow grease

“...written by journalists and opinion writers, ...”

No need to say more about the 1619 Project. We’re looking at folks who were in that university group that never had to even come close to a intellectually demanding course. Heck, let’s make that a 1900s high-school senior level course.

And just think, they’re also telling us about global warming, no - climate change, or whatever the new term will be. Guaranteed we’ll get a new term since their previous ones only were believed by other groups with no education - such as Democrats.


27 posted on 12/02/2019 6:02:12 AM PST by Da Coyote (is)
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To: Da Coyote
"global warming, no - climate change, or whatever the new term will be'

"Water Vapor Changes" ...... lol

28 posted on 12/02/2019 6:17:04 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: Thermalseeker

My Wife’s parents came from Hong Kong in the 60s worked and lived in back of a Chinese Restaurant as indentured servants for years before they learn they had rights.

One night her parents wise up and took their Children and left that life style. They started their own successful restaurant and purchase a house. Note that was without the help of the federal government.

I believe a lot of your Mexicans you see in the back of Chinese and Mexican restaurants are indentured.

Indentured India people running gas stations and convenience stores. There is a big corporation that runs small gas stations acorss the South manage by people they import from India.

IT industries import India people paying them lower wages. I saw a news report that states they get abuse and expected to work long hours. If they complain they get let go, then they have to find a new job in so many days or be deported back to India. Look at the suicide rates in silicone valley.

The modern day slavery is the exportation of illegal aliens from Central and South America for cheap wages. Illegal alien gets hurt on the job they do not file workman’s comp.

What party is supporting all of this?


29 posted on 12/02/2019 6:39:39 AM PST by DEPcom
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To: a little elbow grease

Slavery was much worse in South/Central America than in Colonial America, and in some areas exists to this day.


30 posted on 12/02/2019 6:42:19 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: csvset

Hey FRiend! That’s news as far as I’m concerned. Can you throw me some links?

Slavery back in Libya? I had no idea.


31 posted on 12/02/2019 6:49:28 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: a little elbow grease

The Left is not merely ignorant of history. They need to rewrite history to incite an uprising.


32 posted on 12/02/2019 6:54:18 AM PST by robel
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To: robel; All
"The Left is not merely ignorant of history. They need to rewrite history to incite an uprising."

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That is so true.

Just wait 'til we get a load of these "authorities/scholars/historians" who are going to prep us on the realities of IMPEACHMENT on Wednesday.

Time for some spitballs in class.

;-)

33 posted on 12/02/2019 7:28:44 AM PST by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it divine ...)
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To: LS
"But everything was exceptional about Plymouth, including the fact that they did not have slaves."

The only reason they didn't was that nobody had shipped any there, not any philosophical objection. My Yankee ancestors hit Boston in 1633 with the big fleet of Puritans, and a few years later purchased some of the first slaves that arrived on those shores (descendants of those ancestors later "did" turn against slavery, and fought in the Civil War in opposition to it).

34 posted on 12/02/2019 7:35:42 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: marktwain

You need to explore our history a bit more...an indentured servant was not a free person...it matters not what they were called.


35 posted on 12/02/2019 7:41:21 AM PST by dunblak
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To: a little elbow grease

Why do people wallow in the past and not report on the current slavery in the world? Possibly it is because they do not want to trace where this slavery exists and are afraid to criticize where it exists.


36 posted on 12/02/2019 7:42:18 AM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: fieldmarshaldj

bfl


37 posted on 12/02/2019 7:46:54 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Almost all of these claims and counterclaims can be put down as variations of “Us vs. Them” hyperbola.

That is, “Us” comes along and makes some exaggerated claims about “Them” and gets them accepted by the largely uncritical public.

After a long period of acceptance, scholarship determines that elements, perhaps large elements, of the “Us “ claim were false or, at best, misleading. “Them” (and its “Woke” allies among the “Us”) now claim that, because some elements of the previous “Us” claim (which better educated members of “Us” have long since stopped defending) were false, every element of the “Us” claim is now false. They insist that a new narrative, told exclusively from the perspective of “Them,” must now replace it.

Anyone daring to point out that the new “Them” narrative has elements just as exaggerated as the previous “Us” narrative is to be labeled as an “-ist.” And any more nuanced narrative of events, no matter how carefully framed, is to be regarded as “-ism.”

Unfortunately, the either/or dualism above ignores the complexity of human behavior and the prevalence of gaps and self-serving documents in the historical record.

Actual history is messy and human behavior inconsistent. That’s what gives you a black man as the first recorded slave owner in what would become the United States. Or that there were a number of slave owning white southern gentlemen of quality who signed a declaration in 1776 stating “all men are created equal.” Or that black kings on the west coast of Africa really did collect and sell fellow blacks into slavery knowing full well they would never return. (Or that their modern day descendants would claim that African slavery was “different” and that they had been duped into participation.) Or that there were a lot of southern white men who could not afford/did not want to own a slave and/or did not believe in slavery who still joined the Confederate States Army and fought and died defending “the Southern way of life” because their community felt under threat and had called them to arms. Or that President Lincoln (along with a good part of the Union Army) held what would today be regarded as racist views concerning the intellectual inferiority of the blacks they were fighting to liberate from slavery in the South. Or that there were prominent men in the North who publically opposed slavery but who were personally profiting off of slavery in the South. Or a thousand other discrepancies to the black or white, either/or narratives being pushed by one side or the other.

No! Admitting to such ... such “grayness” in human behavior undermines the narrative, subverts the righteousness needed to judge the opposition as “immoral,” and introduces confusing complexity into the thinking of the easily distracted masses. Grayness is hated by both sides even if it is closest to the truth. Or rather, it is hated precisely because it is closest to the truth in most cases. You cannot maintain/restore the status quo or forment the revolution based on moral ambiguity.

Regard and reject the “1619 Project” for what it is: a leftist educational agenda masquerading as history.


38 posted on 12/02/2019 8:17:49 AM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I’m currently at work, on my phone, but a quick search l will bring up plenty of stories. The latest news is now Canada will be importing Libyans !


39 posted on 12/02/2019 8:58:01 AM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: a little elbow grease

The NYT “1619 Project” is riddled with error and seem to be a deliberate attempt to change actual history.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/21/no-america-wasnt-built-slavery-faith-men-created-equal/


40 posted on 12/02/2019 9:02:20 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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