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My Country, New Zealand: Not the Paradise Americans Think It Is
American Thinker ^ | 12/098/2019 | Hamish Carter

Posted on 12/09/2019 5:22:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind

I am a New Zealander (or "Kiwi," as we affectionately refer to ourselves) who has spent many years outside my home country — including several years in the United States.  At present, I live in Asia and cannot see myself returning to the land of my birth and upbringing anytime soon.

My home country is simply not the paradise that many people, including a lot of Americans, perceive it to be.

Background

It's important to note that I drafted this article back in April — soon after the mass shooting that took place in Christchurch — but opted to have it sit in limbo for several months.  I needed to give my home country some time to emotionally and spiritually recover.

In the aftermath of that shooting — New Zealand's deadliest single act of violence in the nation's history — I noticed an unprecedented level of international support and praise being bestowed upon my country, especially from left-wing Americans on social media.  They saw a national leader (Jacinda Ardern) whom they deemed far more agreeable to their SJW sensibilities than Donald Trump.  They saw a nation that can make sweeping gun reforms within a few days.  They saw "they are us" as a popular hashtag for Kiwis to show their unwavering support for Muslim residents, who are one of the darling victim groups of the woke age.

Most notably, I saw many of these people making the assertion they wanted to leave the United States and move to New Zealand — a move I am here to warn against, and that goes for Americans of all political affiliations.

Kiwis Have Less Civil Liberty than Americans

This needs to be mentioned first and foremost,


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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilliberty; newzealand; paradise
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1 posted on 12/09/2019 5:22:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, I never thought of NZ as any kind of paradise, so, there’s that.


2 posted on 12/09/2019 5:31:35 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: SeekAndFind

“In the United States, Americans enjoy the great privilege of being able to go out for a drive at any time without “your papers, please” moments such as these. Additionally, American police can (legally) pull you over only if they have probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed.”

This guy has obviously not been driving about the land here these days with the proliferation of “drug and DUI checkpoints” designed to seize your money, car and freedoms. Probable cause: no, for the privilege of driving on the kings highway, you are required to submit because we don’t need no probable cause.


3 posted on 12/09/2019 5:34:08 AM PST by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Reads like Texans telling Californians how bad Texas is. Don’t come here, it’s terrible.


4 posted on 12/09/2019 5:35:02 AM PST by setter
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To: LouAvul

Re: Yeah, I never thought of NZ as any kind of paradise, so, there’s that.

Well, Justice Ruth Ginsburg thinks it is.

SEE HERE:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/10/after-trump-victory-americans-flock-to-new-zealands-immigration-websites/

TITLE:

‘Now it’s time for us to move to New Zealand.’ Ruth Bader Ginsberg wasn’t the only one thinking this.


5 posted on 12/09/2019 5:35:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind
Most notably, I saw many of these people making the assertion they wanted to leave the United States and move to New Zealand — a move I am here to warn against, and that goes for Americans of all political affiliations.

No kidding - if we keep ceding victory to the Left, after a while there's nowhere left to run. That was true in California, it's true right now in Texas, and it's already true overseas. Anyone who isn't a member of the Left needs to stand up where they are right now - whether it's in K-12 public schools, or insisting on our free speech rights, right down to speaking out against local plastic bag bans. We let the left-wing fascists have their way, pull our kids out of public schools, bully the rest of us into going along with the delusion that Bruce Jenner is a woman, or put up with endless, incremental intrusions on our daily lives because some neurotic environmentalist thinks we're using too much water flushing the toilet - the end result is a stifling left-wing paradise that Erich Honecker would be proud to call home.
6 posted on 12/09/2019 5:36:12 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: SeekAndFind

This guy just made an excellent case for the lefties to move there because what they are trying to inflict on us here is already in operation over there.


7 posted on 12/09/2019 5:38:20 AM PST by BlackAdderess (Free the Russia investigation documents)
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To: SeekAndFind

Having spent 18 days in New Zealand, I would offer the five positives and five negatives.

Negatives: (1) Auckland is mostly the only ‘big’ city of the country, and I would qualify the next five cities in size as ‘not that thrilling’. If you were drawn to urbanized areas, this is not the country for you. (2) Vast areas of the both islands where you are an hour or more away from any kind of grocery store. (3) Things are awful expensive. (4) Virtually everyone has acute criticism of politics and government accomplishments. If you thought it was bad in the US...it’s worse in NZ. (5) Tourism has probably ruined NZ, and no matter where you go...you will bump in Brit, American, Aussie, or Chinese tourists.

Positives: (1) No snakes. The complete opposite of Australia. (2) Virtually every single NZ guy will lay claim to twenty different skill sets, and be master of none. Houses all have obvious ‘mistakes’ built into them. But these folks all have the ‘can-do’ attitude about themselves. (3) Because of limited connections to the rest of the world....locals all read a lot. (4) For outdoor recreation, I don’t think any other country can compete for the options available within a square mile radius. (5) I ate out at five different establishments during the trip which featured bar-b-q’ed ribs, and would strongly recommend them for some of the best ribs in the world.


8 posted on 12/09/2019 5:41:10 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t it a Home Depot line that says “less thinking, more doing”?


9 posted on 12/09/2019 5:44:16 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Guns up . . . We cominÂ’ PS: Eric The Blower Ciaramella. PASS IT ON)
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To: Mouton

I have a friend in pukekohe.
Relatively speaking this guy is correct and before you stomp your foot further down your gullet go spend some time in New Zealand.


10 posted on 12/09/2019 5:44:16 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: SeekAndFind

Frankly, I would prefer RBG and the other members of her cult to go ruin New Zealand instead of staying here and continuing to ruin the country I live in.


11 posted on 12/09/2019 5:48:58 AM PST by L,TOWM (An upraised middle finger is my virtue signal.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Frankly, I would prefer RBG and the other members of her cult to go ruin New Zealand instead of staying here and continuing to ruin the country I live in.


12 posted on 12/09/2019 5:48:58 AM PST by L,TOWM (An upraised middle finger is my virtue signal.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I've visited New Zealand several times. I dated a wonderful woman from New Zealand long ago. It's a gorgeous country but never in a million years would I want to live there
13 posted on 12/09/2019 5:57:58 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: SeekAndFind
Can't read it. Clickbait and it requires I turn off adblock. Not gonna happen.

That said, I'd gladly contribute a buck or two to get Ginsberg out of the country. Off the planet. Whatever. Her and the rest of her degenerate, anti Christ ilk.

14 posted on 12/09/2019 6:00:54 AM PST by LouAvul
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New Zealand's deadliest single act of violence in the nation's history

You're forgetting all about the Maori Wars the Brit settlers and Maori natives had.

15 posted on 12/09/2019 6:05:49 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: pepsionice

1 and 2 are positives for me.


16 posted on 12/09/2019 6:18:17 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: SeekAndFind

This sounds like my friends from Texas, every time I talk about moving there from New Jersey, and they talk about how it is 120 Degrees in the shade and there are cock-a-roaches the size of seagulls.

I’m so lucky they’re looking out for me, convincing me to stay in New Jersey.


17 posted on 12/09/2019 6:21:58 AM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave)
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To: SeekAndFind

One thing left out by the article...how many hoops you have to jump through just to set foot on the place.

Want to visit? There’s an app for that, where they ask 20 questions, you scan your passport and take a photo and swear you have a ticket back to where you came from. Then cough up $80 bucks per couple to process the approval.

Want to stay 1 year (the max allowed)?

Add copies of your bank account info. You need to prove you have money or they won’t let you in. You need to prove you’ve had TB and other vaccinations or they won’t let you in.


18 posted on 12/09/2019 6:50:41 AM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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“Want to visit? There’s an app for that, where they ask 20 questions, you scan your passport and take a photo and swear you have a ticket back to where you came from. Then cough up $80 bucks per couple to process the approval.

Want to stay 1 year (the max allowed)?”

I’m from the UK, which like the US is on the visa waiver list in NZ. All I needed was an ETA like I would to enter the US (which doesn’t cost $80 to process).

I wouldn’t complain too much about the checks though. Every sovereign country should scrutinise foreigners coming in and making sure they don’t intend to enter and stay illegally.


19 posted on 12/09/2019 7:03:32 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve heard that trout fishing is excellent in some NZ rivers and streams. I’d visit for that, given the opportunity.


20 posted on 12/09/2019 9:26:55 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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