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Flawed Bridge Technology Set The USS McCain Up For Disaster
Pro Publica via gCaptain ^ | 12/22/2019 | T. Christian Miller, Megan Rose, Robert Faturechi and Agnes Chang

Posted on 12/23/2019 8:54:41 AM PST by Oatka

Dakota Bordeaux had rarely traveled outside his home state of Oklahoma before he joined the Navy in February 2017. He’d certainly never seen the ocean.

But only four months later, Bordeaux was standing at the helm of the USS John S. McCain, steering the 8,300-ton destroyer through the western Pacific. Part of the Navy’s famed 7th Fleet, the McCain was responsible for patrolling global hot spots, shadowing Chinese warships in the South China Sea and tracking North Korean missile launches.

It filled the high school graduate with pride.

“Not many people of my age can say, ‘Hey, I just drove a giant-ass battleship,’” said Bordeaux, 23.

To guide the McCain, Bordeaux relied upon a navigation system the Navy considered a triumph of technology and thrift. It featured slick black touch screens to operate the ship’s wheel and propellers. It knit together information from radars and digital maps. It would save money by requiring fewer sailors to safely steer the ship.

(Excerpt) Read more at gcaptain.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: collision; electronics; navy; ussmccain
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Excerpted due to it's LONG length. IMO, we're getting TOO reliant on electronics in some areas.
1 posted on 12/23/2019 8:54:41 AM PST by Oatka
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“Not many people of my age can say, ‘Hey, I just drove a giant-ass battleship,’” said Bordeaux, 23.


should he really be there?


2 posted on 12/23/2019 8:59:30 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Oatka

I would wager that the namesake of the ship was at least equally responsible for ship disaster.

Making thumb-down motion with my other hand.


3 posted on 12/23/2019 9:01:18 AM PST by spiderpig (Does whatever a SpiderPig does)
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To: Oatka

Some say it’s The Curse of Juan McCain.


4 posted on 12/23/2019 9:02:37 AM PST by chris37 (Where's Hunter?)
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To: Oatka

McCain always had technical problems that prevented him from steering a good or accurate course. His steering system always pulled hard to the left.


5 posted on 12/23/2019 9:05:01 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Oatka

**Standing orders** in the Navy are for someone to keep a watch out the bridge windows at all times while underway. The problem isn’t the technology.


6 posted on 12/23/2019 9:07:34 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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So, the same problem as it’s namesake.


7 posted on 12/23/2019 9:10:33 AM PST by ALASKA (Watching an attempted coup by a thousand cuts....)
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“Not many people of my age can say, ‘Hey, I just drove a giant-ass battleship,’” said Bordeaux, 23.

And neither can you.

A 8,300-ton destroyer is a far cry from a 58,400-ton battleship.

8 posted on 12/23/2019 9:13:22 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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should he really be there?

From the article:

"“There was actually a lot of functions on there that I had no clue what on earth they did,” Bordeaux said of the system."

I'd say the answer would be "no". Incredible that they'd let people who did not know the navigation system inside and out use it to steer an 8300 ton destroyer. And of course the taxpayers get the bill for this idiocy.
9 posted on 12/23/2019 9:14:21 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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Bordeaux felt confident using the system to control the speed and heading of the ship. But there were many things he did not understand about the array of dials, arrows and data that filled the touch screen.

“There was actually a lot of functions on there that I had no clue what on earth they did,” Bordeaux said of the system.

And he was in charge of steering. He should not have been on the bridge, except to observe in training, until he knew what EVERY dial, display, and control on the bridge did.

10 posted on 12/23/2019 9:14:27 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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“The problem isn’t the technology.”

No tech on board. Chief with one hour of instruction in Charge of watch quals.


11 posted on 12/23/2019 9:15:52 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: rlmorel

ping.


12 posted on 12/23/2019 9:16:19 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Oatka

When i was in in the early 90’s we didn’t have any touch screen tech in the engineering mainspaces themselves but every sailor knew CYA. CYA at all costs because even if you followed orders to a T, shit rolls downhill and the NAVY and its upper brass will punish you even if its not warranted. Document, Document, Document. COVER YOUR ASS..........


13 posted on 12/23/2019 9:16:35 AM PST by hillarys cankles
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“Not many people of my age can say, ‘Hey, I just drove a giant-ass battleship,’” said Bordeaux, 23.

should he really be there?


If he's properly trained, yes. He's older than average for many in that position, and quite capable of the job IF he is properly trained.
14 posted on 12/23/2019 9:16:49 AM PST by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: Oatka

The Navy’s karma ran over its dogma. They have very good ships and technology, but the leadership in many cases has a defective CMA mentality.


15 posted on 12/23/2019 9:16:52 AM PST by Theophilous Meatyard III
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“There was actually a lot of functions on there that I had no clue what on earth they did,”

Doesn't the Navy have simulators ? I know for a fact that the US merchant marine have used simulators for decades.

16 posted on 12/23/2019 9:19:34 AM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: TexasGator

Again, the technology isn’t the problem. The people (and more specifically, their training/training organization) are.


17 posted on 12/23/2019 9:20:43 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Oatka

Fortunately, the Navy requires more training for its nuclear reactor operators.


18 posted on 12/23/2019 9:21:28 AM PST by rwa265
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I’ve got experience myself piloting commercial motor vessels this size

Three and one half minutes is plenty time to avoid another vessel while underway

I’m not a veteran but it seems like our military always blame service men first before systems or technology

Was there no way to simply override this vexed steering system and revert to manual

If not how to steer if a power loss to the bridge?

A genuine pilot wheel could averted this

She’s a twin shaft.....that makes another way to steer clear of danger

I will say as someone who been in the port of Singapore there should have been a serious officer or high ranking enlisted man on that bridge

Another question is if they were but 20 miles from docking Singapore when the hell does the bar or port pilot board?

I’ve been on a ship collision on a small freighter in Miragoane Haiti

You do reach a. Point where it’s impossible to avoid contact

My captain was attempting a beam to beam anchorage to lighter from us to the ship at the old pre slave revolt dock

He came in too hard..from 100 yards out there was nowhere to go but to hit gunnel to gunnel enough to scrape paint and dent the railing in the contact spot

Another time on the Calcaseiu river in St Charles a chem carrier hit us barely...that was pilot error but trust me they never ever own it

River pilot association are extortion rackets


19 posted on 12/23/2019 9:21:32 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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Loss of steering? Did anyone consider stopping??? Say nothing of the two female officers who weren’t talking to each other.


20 posted on 12/23/2019 9:21:35 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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