Posted on 12/24/2019 5:55:21 AM PST by Carriage Hill
“NYC is full of rude people who can still be very kind and generous.”
I have known a number of New Yorkers. What appears to be intentional rude behavior is not intended by them to be rude. I think they grow up in a crowded, impersonal environment where, if you behave with the demeanor of a Southerner, you are, sometimes literally, run over. They adopt the briskness as a defense and an accommodation to a faster paced lifestyle. Israelis have the same demeanor or even more so than New Yorkers. I learned from dealing with my Israeli workforce (at an Israeli owned defense plant) that they were simply comfortable yelling at each other and me. It was just how they communicated.
Once, after an extremely expensive mistake made by the company I was taken aside by the Israeli president. He said, “You were right and Eli was wrong. But you did not argue. You allowed me to make a bad decision.” I said, “I presented test data that said I was right and he was wrong. It was conclusive. You listened to him and made the decision. At that point, it is my job to support your decision and try to make it successful.” He stared at me for a moment and then said, “But if you don’t argue, how do I know you are right?” Another long pause. “I ran tests. I had data. Either you believe in the scientific method with repeatable results or you don’t. I am not going to try to shout down an Israeli. I am not going to raise my blood pressure for nothing.” He closed his eyes for a long moment and then said, “Okay. I think I understand. But next time, I expect you to pound the table and yell.”
I left the NJ-NYC area in 1989, and have never had a kind reminiscence about either.
I dud not find them rude at all. Businesslike, but not rude.
I would guess that any city/town can seem rude if you are a stranger.
If you live in a area and get to know some people it can make all the difference in the world.
The thing with big cities, like NYC,guessing, is their are a lot of transient people and or lost souls.
Personally, i could not live in any city.
I would go insane!
New Yorkers are the rudest in America at 34%? Maybe that explains why Trump has such a hard edge to him. All my left wing friends say the same thing about him. “It’s not his policies, it’s his behavior.” And that’s why they hate him.
On a good note, they can hate him for the next five years.
The Adirondacks are incredible; unfortunately, they aren’t doing well economically. Couldn’t imagine living there year-round; even if you could find a job, the winters are brutal. Lake Placid is incredible!
Unfortunately the Americans living in those areas are heavily outweighed by NYC in terms of votes/political clout...
“And thats why they hate him.”
Yeah, that’s why they hate him. And they hated Reagan because he was from Cali? and G.W.Bush because he was from Texas?
The main reason they hate him is he’s a regular normal American who they can’t control.
Of course it’s the rudest...loaded with democrats.
Years ago there was an actor who called himself “Andrew Dice Clay”. He fancied himself a commedian.
What he was, however, is a prop.
People from Kansas or New Mexico or Colorado or some other state in flyover country who had at some time visited New York City would use Mr. Clay as a prop.
These folks would recount the stories that they had told other people of what New York City was really like and then they would get Andrew Dice Clay on the television or play one of his tapes and say “see, New York City is exactly like I told you. I wasn’t making it up.”
New York may be the rudest city in America but here in California we have the stupidest and laziest by far.
I’m assuming there was a sign?
Everywhere a sign.
I visit nyc to see my daughter several times a year and always found it to be friendly. We go all over nyc and run into rude people just like anywhere but Id say nice people outnumber them.
And number one is the so called Gov.
I have always found this subject fascinating...I guess for me, it boils down to the fact that we can all be a-holes at one time or another...and some to a greater degree...no matter where you live.
I have a rule about driving-we are all a-holes!
Most people I know want to do the right thing when driving, but...you get tired, lazy, old, or you are distracted, and you pull out in front of someone when you shouldn’t, and...you are an a-hole.
You drive considerately 98% of the time, but that one time in a day or week you don’t...you piss someone else off, often for good reason.
Multiply that by all the people we have driving on the road, a person making a mistake every few days, and with that quantity of a-holes on the road, it is a miracle that people don’t simply murder each other constantly!
Once you understand that “F-— You” is a New Yorker’s way of saying “Hello” (and most other things), it’s easier to relate to them.
New Yorkers have very limited vocabularies (while believing they are more intelligent than everyone else) so “F-— You” becomes their go-to phrase for all occasions.
Just like here in Panama, a car horn honk is used for many things such as “hello”, “I recognize you”, “I’m passing you on the left”, “I’m passing you on the right”, “watch out ahead for that pedestrian”, “watch out ahead for that dog”, “watch out ahead for that horse”, as well as the traditional “do kindly move out of my way”. If you don’t understand this form of communication, you are likely to get quickly offended.
I write this while visiting my mom in Palm Beach County, the belly of the beast for transplanted New Yorkers. I can smell the entitlement all around me. I mentioned Miami (less than an out away) because of the standoffish and often cold behavior of the Latins who live there, which seems to only increase with wealth. Women are hot but very dramatic. If you have a heart, a soul, and any concern for human decency, stay away from Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade Counties.
So true, so true.
Donald Westlake has a number of novels such as “Somebody Owes Me Money,” “God Save The Mark” and “Cops and Robbers” set in New York City. His New York world of 1960-90 in these comedic thrillers is great and I love it. I don’t care if it really existed or not! I’ll always think of New York like that.
I’ve always met wonderful people while traveling in NYC. And I love that glorious city as well.
I was told once that when I worked in Midtown, NEVER look another pedestrian directly in the eyes, or you’ll get into a confrontation. Hell, I always looked people in the eyes, and never had a problem. I liked people watching in Midtown and some of the boroughs.
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