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U.S. coal-fired power plants closing fast despite Trump's pledge of support for industry
Reuters ^ | 01 13 2020 | Scott DiSavino

Posted on 01/13/2020 1:15:29 PM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: BeauBo

Wonder what a happens when the supply of Nat Gas runs low. I heard that we have a 40 year supply at current consumption rates.

There will always be coal. I don’t hold much hope for nuclear since it has a worse rep than coal.


21 posted on 01/13/2020 1:29:25 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“No ash disposal with bat gas.”

“Bat gas”? You mean to say we are actually converting Bat farts to energy?

Who knew?


22 posted on 01/13/2020 1:29:49 PM PST by billyboy15
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To: abb

One of the interesting things to come out of the Democrat Fascist Party Impeachment Clown Show. Putin is a big bankroller of the propaganda war on Fraking.

EDITOR’S PICK4,995 viewsDec 2, 2019, 09:10am
Impeachment Testimony Describes Putin’s Propaganda War On American Fracking

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daneberhart/2019/12/02/kremlin-meddling-shows-value-of-natural-gas-supplies-fracking/#37701db8462a


23 posted on 01/13/2020 1:30:18 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: BeauBo
Part of this effect is from competition with low cost Natural Gas.

Yes, very true.

Also most electric utilities are regulated at the state level, and many states are still run by libtards who are making life for them increasingly miserable with fines and regulation. Those utilities, realizing that Trump won't be there forever and getting sick of playing this game, are transitioning regardless.


24 posted on 01/13/2020 1:34:07 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: yesthatjallen
They're closing, retiring, and converting coal plants because natural gas in currently cheaper.

Once fracking opened up massive natural gas fields in the Bakken Formation, Marcellus Shale and Permian Basin, everybody is getting away from coal in short order. Mostly because cleaning up emissions from burning natural gas is vastly cheaper than cleaning up emissions from burning coal, for starters.

25 posted on 01/13/2020 1:36:04 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Plus, negative press doesn’t have an impact. You might be less inclined to invest in coal if the people in high positions state that it is bad. Foolish as it may be, it is enough to scare away investors.


26 posted on 01/13/2020 1:36:10 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: yesthatjallen

What are they replacing the loss of power with? Maybe collecting cow farts and pipe it to the converted gas fired plants.


27 posted on 01/13/2020 1:37:44 PM PST by Logical me
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To: FreedomPoster

The Greenies were going after natural gas as a fuel alternative back in the Jimmy Carter administration.

There used to be a searchlight on the roof of the Playboy Club in Chicago, that was lit by a natural gas flame. Its beam was visible from many miles out by approaching aircraft coming to O’Hare, Some genius insisted on shutting off ALL the natural gas fired lanterns, down to and including gas mantle lights in people’s front yards, as it was economically encouraging further natural gas exploration, and the gas lighting was CHEAPER, even when burning 24/7, than electric lighting.

After the Playboy light was shut off, when the restrictions on the use of natural gas were lifted, the searchlight could not be turned back on, because the clubhouse, once the tallest building on its block, was now surrounded by much taller buildings, and the beam would be ineffective.


28 posted on 01/13/2020 1:37:58 PM PST by alloysteel (Freedom is not a matter of life and death. It is much more serious than that..)
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To: MNJohnnie
Which explains the current war on Fraking and Natural Gas by the Same Eco facists that declared war on Coal.

Yes. They're angry because coal isn't being replaced by 'green' energy so fracking and gas are the new 'climate emergency'.

29 posted on 01/13/2020 1:40:02 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: billyboy15
We need to pull over and get some Bat Gas, old chum.


30 posted on 01/13/2020 1:40:44 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: RayChuang88

This professor is good and covers all things energy/power. Good resource for energy.

Illinois EnergyProf
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKH_iLhhkTyt8Dk4dmeCQ9w

He talks about the future of power here...
Energy Stats: Then and Now, Here and There
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Bi2LpLoK8


31 posted on 01/13/2020 1:40:54 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: yesthatjallen

But do they realize they are painting us into a corner.


32 posted on 01/13/2020 1:42:04 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

We’ve barely scratched the surface of the natural gas supply from the Bakken Formation, Permian Basin and Marcellus Shale. And there is a huge amount of it sitting underneath the soil of upper New York state (upper New York state sits on the north end of the Marcellus Shale formation).


33 posted on 01/13/2020 1:42:50 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: yesthatjallen

Stands to reason that with the anti-coal policies of the Obama administration over 8 years that a lot of plants that didn’t actually close were still planning to close or were foregoing needed plant maintenance and now are uneconomical. And so you get a sort of “delayed closing”.


34 posted on 01/13/2020 1:44:25 PM PST by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!))
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To: dhs12345

They don’t care.


35 posted on 01/13/2020 1:44:25 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: RayChuang88
This guy claims that we only have a limited, approx 40 year supply of Nat Gas. And demand for energy will be increasing in the future and more 3rd world countries become developed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Bi2LpLoK8

36 posted on 01/13/2020 1:45:01 PM PST by dhs12345
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“The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates that as of January 1, 2016, there were about 2,462 trillion cubic feet (Tcf) of technically recoverable resources of dry natural gas in the United States. At the rate of U.S. natural gas consumption in 2016 of about 27.5 Tcf per year, the United States has enough natural gas to last about 90 years. The actual number of years will depend on the amount of natural gas consumed each year, natural gas imports and exports, and additions to natural gas reserves.

Technically recoverable reserves consist of proved reserves and unproved resources. Proved reserves of crude oil and natural gas are the estimated volumes expected to be produced, with reasonable certainty, under existing economic and operating conditions. Unproved resources of crude oil and natural gas are additional volumes estimated to be technically recoverable without consideration of economics or operating conditions, based on the application of current technology.”

https://www.americangeosciences.org/critical-issues/faq/how-much-natural-gas-does-united-states-have-and-how-long-will-it-last


37 posted on 01/13/2020 1:48:48 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: yesthatjallen

They retired commercially unviable plants... which are older plants, which are almost all going to be coal..

Unlike under Obama where they were systemically targeting coal..


38 posted on 01/13/2020 1:50:19 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: abb
Many of whom are financed by Arab Oil.

Which we don't need now.

39 posted on 01/13/2020 1:52:03 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Every 4 years is a threat of shutdown ; who wants to gamble a plant on that

Let them eat windmills


40 posted on 01/13/2020 1:54:12 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Game over, man! Game over! ; : rem ad triarios redisse is)
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