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ICE ups ante in standoff with NYC: ‘This is not a request’
Associated Press ^ | January 19, 2020 | Jim Mustian

Posted on 01/18/2020 9:58:29 PM PST by Olog-hai

Federal authorities are turning to a new tactic in the escalating conflict over New York City’s so-called sanctuary policies, issuing four “immigration subpoenas” to the city for information about inmates wanted for deportation.

“This is not a request — it’s a demand,” Henry Lucero, a senior U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement official, told The Associated Press. “This is a last resort for us. Dangerous criminals are being released every single day in New York.” […]

The development comes days after ICE sent similar subpoenas to the city of Denver, a move that reflected the agency’s mounting frustration with jurisdictions that do not honor deportation “detainers” or provide any details about defendants going in and out of local custody.

The subpoenas sent to New York seek information about three inmates — including a man wanted for homicide in El Salvador — who were recently released despite immigration officials requesting the city turn them over for deportation.

The fourth subpoena asks for information about a Guyanese man charged this month with sexually assaulting and killing Maria Fuertas, a 92-year-old Queens woman. …

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: New York
KEYWORDS: akadeblasio; aliens; andrewcuomo; billdeblasio; ice; newyork; newyorkcity; nyc; sanctuarycities
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To: Olog-hai

in a “real” world accessories to criminality are arrested-not given “demands”


21 posted on 01/19/2020 3:27:24 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: Olog-hai

Political election cycle kabuki. Nyc and evryone else will just wait it out. CA is getting a homeless bailout reward for this mess.


22 posted on 01/19/2020 3:33:58 AM PST by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: Jeff Chandler

> “Three years in and they’re finally getting serious about The Resistance.”

No, not three years. The effort to deport violators began immediately but has been impeded by liberal federal judges issuing nationawide injunctions against the DOJ. President Trump has ikept his promises and has never stopped the effort to enforce his executive orders and the federal laws behind them

March 2018
DOJ sued California, Jerry Brown, and Xavier Becerra over three state laws passed in the previous months claiming the laws made it impossible for federal immigration officials to do their jobs and deport criminals who were born outside the United States.

DOJ charged the state laws unconstitutional asking a judge to block them claiming the state laws “reflect a deliberate effort by California to obstruct the United States’ enforcement of federal immigration law.”

The Trump administration had previously released a list of immigration principles to Congress including funding a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, a crackdown on the influx of Central American minors, and curbs on federal grants to sanctuary cities. A pledge to strip “all federal funding to sanctuary cities”, a key Trump campaign theme was followed by President Trump issuing an executive order declaring jurisdictions “refusing to comply” with 8 U.S.C. 1373 on information sharing between local and federal authorities—would be ineligible to receive federal grants.

Thirty-three states introduced or enacted legislation requiring local law enforcement to cooperate with ICE officers and requests to hold non-citizen inmates for deportation. Some states and cities responded by not cooperating with federal immigration efforts

California openly refused to “clamp down on sanctuary cities”.

A federal judge in San Francisco agreed with two California municipalities that a presidential attempt to cut them off from federal funding for not complying with deportation requests was unconstitutional ultimately issuing a nationwide permanent injunction against the claimed unconstitutionality of the order.

In Chicago a federal judge ruled the Trump administration may not withhold federal funds to sanctuary cities.

July 2018
A federal judge upheld California’s Sanctuary laws.

July 2019
A federal appeals court overturned a nationwide injunction issued in 2018 year by a federal judge in Los Angeles.

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The Trump Administration has been stopped time and time again by liberal federal judges issuing injunctions.

President Trump’s response has been to never give up and to replace liberal judges with judges that follow the law as written and intended. His efforts have been relentless and widespread. The number of judges replaced and ongoing are unprecedented. His efforts to reform the judiciary have been so effective that even the most liberal 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in California has been flipped.


23 posted on 01/19/2020 3:36:18 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: SecAmndmt

Yes exactly. See #23.


24 posted on 01/19/2020 3:37:27 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

Deblasio can’t turn’em over. Those are his future democrat voters.


25 posted on 01/19/2020 3:47:03 AM PST by EvilCapitalist (If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement. -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Olog-hai

Start arresting heads of jurisdictions that defy federal laws and they’ll change their tunes.


26 posted on 01/19/2020 5:18:51 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: DannyTN

“So I’m guessing the subpoenas request information on who authorized the release of the inmates.”

I doubt this is the case. Lowly employees working inside a system are not in control of policies. And, the people who are in control of policy are elected and out in the open. Everybody knows who they are. Any employee inside the system who violates the policy would be fired.


27 posted on 01/19/2020 5:53:09 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Jeff Chandler

Bitch, bitch, bitch


28 posted on 01/19/2020 5:56:21 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: tired&retired

“Hold NYC liable for any damages and withhold federal funds.“

Interesting idea. Start taking monies due the city and distribute generously to victims. VERY bad optics to oppose that even if some Obama judge declares it illegal.


29 posted on 01/19/2020 6:02:31 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (“When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day”)
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To: Gen.Blather

Any employee inside the system who violates the policy would be fired.

That defense left ‘em hanging at Nuremburg.


30 posted on 01/19/2020 6:03:51 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (“When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day”)
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To: The Antiyuppie

“That defense left ‘em hanging at Nuremburg.”

There is a difference between getting hung and losing a pension you have worked for 20 years to get. The employees must wait out the politics. (Imagine explaining to your wife you will both have to work and forget about retiring to Florida. I’d rather get hung.)

Let’s suppose some minor functionary decides to violate a policy for conscience. What is to stop anyone else from violating any policy just for the heck of it. This is a version of the broken window theory.


31 posted on 01/19/2020 6:13:38 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

If I worked in a system like that I’d be having friends and neighbors, or even someone on the street, calling ICE to report this stuff before they were released. Stop at a gas station and hand someone a written script and $20 to make the call. Lol


32 posted on 01/19/2020 6:37:44 AM PST by sheana
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To: Olog-hai

We just had a story run thru FR where a Trump supporter was arrested for abetting and housing an illegal alien. And the article used the term ‘illegal alien’.


33 posted on 01/19/2020 7:20:21 AM PST by RideForever
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To: Gen.Blather

“There is a difference between getting hung and losing a pension you have worked for 20 years to get. The employees must wait out the politics. (Imagine explaining to your wife you will both have to work and forget about retiring to Florida. I’d rather get hung.)”

Well, there are officers and “soldiers” in the judicial system also...Judges, elected officials, and the “brass” in police departments are the officers. They need to be held accountable.


34 posted on 01/19/2020 7:35:47 AM PST by The Antiyuppie (“When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day”)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

As reported locally, Denver is technically cooperating with ICE.

Five minutes prior to someone being released they send a Fax to ICE notifying ICE of the impending release.


35 posted on 01/19/2020 9:01:06 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Imprison the mayor pending trial, in 6 months, without bail, and the city will be more forthcoming.

As deeply satisfying as it might be to toss the good mayor into Epstein's last domicile, that is absolutely the wrong thing to do, mainly because it would then devolve into nothing but a political morass.

What ICE should be doing is to send a few agents directly to the police department. Request whatever information they need and then await the response. If the clerk, cop or whomever refuses to cooperate, arrest him/her for aiding and abetting a fugitive. I guarantee you that if you or I had 30 or so illegals stashed in our basement, the police, ICE, or whomever would be more than willing to arrest either of us for any number of things. Why should some governmental functionary be able to get away with essentially the same thing? No. Just arrest him or her, then wait for the replacement drone, and make the same request. If that person refuses, make another arrest. Eventually you will run out of people, or someone will start cooperating.

This is not rocket science. It is the law. You and I are responsible for knowing and adhering to each and every one of the hundreds of thousands of laws that smother our society. Why the hell doesn't it apply to government functionaries? Simply enforce the law until you get some cooperation.

36 posted on 01/19/2020 4:45:21 PM PST by zeugma (I sure wish I lived in a country where the rule of law actually applied to those in power.)
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