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China shuts down more cities in bid to contain deadly virus
The Associated Press ^
| January 23, 2020
| By KEN MORITSUGU and YANAN WANG
Posted on 01/23/2020 6:45:36 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Zhang Fei
Zhang Fei :" The city, at 3300 sq miles, is 1/3 larger than the entire state of Delaware.
The Chinese definition of city appears to be region with population 10m or above.
Thank you !
I admit and stand corrected about Wuhan population density.
Correction appreciated !
To: Red Badger
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posted on
01/23/2020 8:29:29 AM PST
by
Eleutheria5
("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
To: Tilted Irish Kilt
[Thank you !
I admit and stand corrected about Wuhan population density.
Correction appreciated ! ]
You’re not the only person with this misconception about Chinese population density. I had this discussion with a Chinese participant on some English language defense-oriented forum ages ago where I said Chinese cities were more vulnerable in a nuclear exchange, and he contended that American cities were more vulnerable. At that point, Wikipedia was at its infancy, but relative population densities were available. So I looked up the numbers and - lo and behold - he was right, and I was wrong.
It actually stands to reason - China is a lot more agrarian than the US is, which would imply that the population is far more spread out, on average. Country-wide, China has a higher population density. But a big chunk of China’s population still resides in the sticks, so most areas aren’t particularly densely populated by American urban standards.
There’s also the fact that, historically-speaking, just about every square foot of Chinese land has been populated and cultivated intensively, whereas American settlers were moving to a mostly empty land. So simple tradition stands in the way of American-style city population densities - for residents of a given area, their ancestral graveyards are rooted in areas their lineal forebears have populated for possibly thousands of years. The importance of ancestral worship in the Chinese tradition may have acted as a counterbalance to the centripetal pull of the 10m and up regional agglomerations that the Chinese call “cities”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestor_veneration_in_China
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posted on
01/23/2020 8:34:21 AM PST
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: TangledUpInBlue
“They arent clean people. I work around lots of them and they are disgusting.”
that was NOT my experience at all when working in the PRC: i was astonished at how clean the people and their clothing were, much cleaner and fresher than when i was in France ...
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posted on
01/23/2020 8:37:34 AM PST
by
catnipman
(Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
To: Zhang Fei
Zhang Fei :.. for residents of a given area, their ancestral graveyards are rooted
in areas their lineal forebears have populated for possibly thousands of years.
The importance of ancestral worship in the Chinese tradition may have acted as a counterbalance
to the centripetal pull of the 10m and up regional agglomerations that the Chinese call cities.
As I understand it, Mao's conquest involved physical destruction
of many Chinese written genealogical records.
The destruction was needed to move much of the agrarian population to the cities
and off their ancestral lands.
Is this true, ..or was I misinformed ?
To: Black Agnes
The tinfoil hatter thats my alter ego wonders if this is an excuse to contain some sort of outbreak of political dissent.
I don't think it is tinfoil. Xi has declared himself the new emperor of the modern dynasty. The
Mandate of Heaven is culturally ingrained in the Chinese people.
Dynasties collapse during Grand Solar Minimum. Maybe he is trying to escape destiny.
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posted on
01/23/2020 9:08:43 AM PST
by
PA Engineer
(Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
To: TangledUpInBlue
“They arent clean people. I work around lots of them and they are disgusting.”
About like this?
Our local Chinese restaurant was shut down for 3 months when a person saw staff scraping leftover food from people plates back into the food bins on the buffet.
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posted on
01/23/2020 9:10:30 AM PST
by
setter
To: Tilted Irish Kilt
[As I understand it, Mao’s conquest involved physical destruction
of many Chinese written genealogical records.
The destruction was needed to move much of the agrarian population to the cities
and off their ancestral lands.
Is this true, ..or was I misinformed ?]
I’m not Chinese, so I’m only privy to whatever English language sources are available in hard copy or on the internet. But my decades of amateur China-watching indicate that the destruction is less complete than the Party would have liked. After all, many of the people who were tasked to do this stuff were locals who would have to live with the people whose things they would have destroy. Look at it this way - it rumored that under Ye Jianying’s protection, Deng Xiaoping survived assassination attempts organized by Mao, an emperor in all but name, who was laser-like focused on eliminating potential rivals for the throne. Nobody cares about how completely destroyed musty ancestral records are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ye_Jianying
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posted on
01/23/2020 9:14:30 AM PST
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: PA Engineer
There’s also a tenuous link between pandemics and Grand Solar Minimums.
To: setter
[About like this?
Our local Chinese restaurant was shut down for 3 months when a person saw staff scraping leftover food from people plates back into the food bins on the buffet.]
While this is pretty extreme, food service is replete with all kinds of corner-cutting by restaurant operators trying to survive or eke out a profit. One of my favorite shows is Kitchen Nightmares.
What I’d like to find out about is the disgusting personal habits that anyone may have observed. Do they reflexively lick their palms and shake your hand every time you see them? Do they hawk up loogies on the carpet?
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posted on
01/23/2020 9:20:44 AM PST
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: Black Agnes
Yes. Interesting times ahead. Best.
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posted on
01/23/2020 9:24:42 AM PST
by
PA Engineer
(Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Here in Bangkok Thailand the air pollution is that bad that school has been cancelled the last two days. Masks in public are the norm, not the exception.
The streets and public transportation are packed with people. Disease could spread like a wildfire in dried scrub pine.
To: tired&retired
[The streets and public transportation are packed with people. Disease could spread like a wildfire in dried scrub pine.]
Some precautions hand washing with soap and water after going out might not be a bad idea. Better safe than sorry.
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posted on
01/23/2020 10:29:58 AM PST
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: Oldeconomybuyer
LATEST INFECTION MAP ( DOES NOT INCLUDE POSSIBLE CASES FOUND IN SCOTLAND AND IRELAND )
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posted on
01/23/2020 10:54:45 AM PST
by
SeekAndFind
(look at Michigan, it will)
To: Zhang Fei
I’m headed to Chang Mai in Norghrrn Thailand next Monday.
Then crossing into Laos and boating down the Mekong River.
The next week I’ll be in Hanoi.
Guess I’m playing Russian roulette.
To: tired&retired
[Im headed to Chang Mai in Norghrrn Thailand next Monday.
Then crossing into Laos and boating down the Mekong River.
The next week Ill be in Hanoi.
Guess Im playing Russian roulette.]
I’d stock up on plenty of wet wipes and bottles of liquid hand sanitizer. Take care. Be safe.
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posted on
01/23/2020 12:08:36 PM PST
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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posted on
01/23/2020 1:04:17 PM PST
by
Cooter
(Radicals always try to force crises because in a crisis, everyone must choose sides. - J. Goldberg)
To: setter
Yeah, or like the guy who came out of his take out restaurant and dragged the doe I just ran over into it....
To: tired&retired
Since you’re not hanging out in airports, you’re probably better off.
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posted on
01/23/2020 1:58:58 PM PST
by
dinodino
To: tired&retired
This is what you call ‘retired’?
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posted on
01/23/2020 2:04:18 PM PST
by
GOPJ
(Will MSNBC bimbos go moist talking to Lev Parnas like they did with Michael Avenatti?)
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