Posted on 01/25/2020 7:49:27 AM PST by Mariner
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“Grave more than likely means they’ve lost complete control and they’ve no idea how to contain it. “
That’s what I’ve been saying all along. For like a week now.
No, that would be 3%, not .03%. However, 1) we don’t know if the # of deaths is accurate - it’s China 2) people could still die out of the 1400 and 3) we don’t know if the # who have it (1400) is accurate either. So we just don’t know.
If next week's impeachment circus is broadcast live from Cheyenne Mountain, you can feel relieved that they will be just fine. :)
(Pandemic)
I pray for my friends and relatives in Zhie Jiang. They have been telling jokes about this to avoid their panic, it breaks my heart to listen to them. Everyone is staying at home, thankfully they bought lots of food for the holiday, I hope they bought enough. Masks are out of stock, no one is wearing eye protection. There is no way Xi would admit this is accelerating without knowing what is coming - the videos are completely opposite of the official counts.
Then the *REAL* fun begins.
...San Francisco. New York. London.
they have deleted the info about no link to the market unless you put up a bad link
Sorry, bad link. The original page had an abbreviation and my cut-and-paste picked that up.
You're the third person who told me.
But Free Republic doesn't let you edit posts once you've submitted them.
Here's the original working link:
Please spread it to anyone else who's interested.
here you go..but patient O had never been to the market
So again, you can’t say not likely.
You can say may or may not be originated from the Biolab.
And even further...US needs to find out if China stole that virus from the US since we did have it back in 2015.
India especially given the density and horrrible hygiene. China is very busy in sub-Saharan Africa, so there has probably been travel there.
This is the kind of thing CIA would do to destablize a govt..if it wasnt about bio warfare. Heck we might have even done that
So yes, any govt could have unleashed the hell hounds...but seems like this would be too much.
I am going with accidental release...anything else is like a plot in a SPY movie or book...lol
although, the info that spies tried to steal the virus from us adds another bizarre dimension
hahaha.. I totally understand. This growing old thing is for the birds. If I could see them, or hear them, or remember what they are!
India would be worse than Africa.
Africa is more spread out.
The population of India is 500 people/sq km.
Africa is 101 people/sq km.
Mauritis and Mayotte in Africa are 600 people/sq km.
US is at 92 people/sq km.
I dimly remember hearing ‘bout some flying creature .. birds, you call ‘em? You seen ‘em? First hand, I mean?
They are talking prefab. Probably leveling an area to bring in trailer house type units. I have also seen where they hook a lot of shipping containers together. Semi tropical area and very few even have AC. They are used to the heat.
We think a building like we build with plumbing, septic etc. You cannot even imagine what they consider a building like I have seen over there.
Shipping container. A couple of light bulbs on extension cords and a Honey bucket. Add a cheap bed and you have a custom hospital bed. Actually 6 beds per shipping container.
Just going on number...60,000 people die EVERY DAY in China from just getting old, and the standard flu and other causes. Until the death rate from Corona-virus exceeds 60/day in China, which would be 0.10% of all deaths every day, I won’t lose my sleep.
The plague in Europe killed more...but you are talking very old history.
Just going on number...60,000 people die EVERY DAY in China from just getting old, and the standard flu and other causes. Until the death rate from Corona-virus exceeds 60/day in China, which would be 0.10% of all deaths every day, I won’t lose my sleep.
That make more sense - I, and everyone, was wondering how they were going to make a modern hospital in 6-10 days. I know from a guy that worked there. in a fairly high end job. that sanitary conditions are worse that the streets of San Fran.
I could be open to a conditional approach to mortality rates, as you suggest, for infections diseases. Indeed, cancer survival rates can be reported that way, i.e., conditional on diagnosis.
The problem chiefly with your suggested design is that of data collection. We would need a credible authority that collects and cleans the data needed of infected people across all infections. That collection effort would also have to be systematic and in a consistent manner, for your suggested design to work.
To be fair, that kind of systematic and consistent data collection effort on infected people exists for Ebola. But problems still exist. As this article notes,
It can be difficult to clinically distinguish EVD from other infectious diseases such as malaria, typhoid fever and meningitis. Thus, we may not be getting good diagnosis data.
But let's assume that the Ebola collection effort is accurate and robust. Thus, using your suggested approach regarding Ebola, the latest data show 1,743 deaths out of 2,592 cases or a 67% death rate.
We now have a problem of comparability. Let's take influenza. There isn't an Ebola-like infected person data collection structure for influenza. Indeed, as this article notes, reported influenza infection and even death data are subject to several limitations.
Thus, your suggested metric of deaths/infected people for 67% for Ebola (or if it's going to be calculable for coronavirus) , isn't comparable to the "irrelevant" deaths/population metric of 0.0019% for Congo. But, that "irrelevant" metric IS comparable to the 34,157 influenza deaths in 2018-2019 to 330 million people in the USA metric or 0.01%.
Wait...you mean the uncertainty nditional US death rate from influenza is higher than the unconditional Congo death rate for Ebola? It sure is. Why? It seems that it's not that easy to become INFECTED with Ebola, but if you do, your chances of surviving aren't that great. In contrast, the estimated conditional influenza death rate in America is low, but it seems to be way easy to become infected with influenza.
Thus, net/net/net, freaking out over Ebola seems to be as mature as freaking out over guns. And I bet the current freak-out over coronavirus will prove to be as equally-mature as gun and Ebola hysteria. Parenthetically, the "irrelevant" metric of deaths per 100,000 is the industry standard.
Troll.
Um, no. But thanks for the dialogue.
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